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Sun 11/18/18


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     1. 10:31 AM - lock-wiring 912 sump banjo bolt (Rowland Carson)
     2. 10:57 AM - order of assembly for cooling duct, radiators and hoses (Rowland Carson)
     3. 11:59 AM - Re: lock-wiring 912 sump banjo bolt (Richard Wheelwright)
     4. 12:09 PM - Re: order of assembly for cooling duct, radiators and hoses (david park)
     5. 06:11 PM - Re: order of assembly for cooling duct, radiators and hoses (Bud Yerly)
     6. 10:57 PM - Re: lock-wiring 912 sump banjo bolt (roddy kesterton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:31:46 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: lock-wiring 912 sump banjo bolt
    Im about to adjust the position of the oil sump banjo on my 912S, as advised in the Europa FWF manual. I note that the head of the banjo bolt is drilled and so I will lock-wire it after re-positioning the banjo. But I cant see any handy place nearby on which to anchor the lock-wire. Does anyone have any suggestions, or have I missed something really obvious? (quite likely!) in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 10:57:43 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: order of assembly for cooling duct, radiators and hoses
    Im trying to figure out the optimum sequence of assembly (or even a sequence that is possible!) for the various cooling items on my XS monowheel, with Neville Eyre cowl and Rotax 912S. Ive listed which things need to be done before others - eg: The long bolts and spacers securing the oil cooler will be much easier to fit before the duct is mounted to the firewall. The bolts holding the duct sides to the CD4/CD5 brackets are obstructed by the oil cooler and water radiator, so need to be fitted first The hose clips for the oil cooler connexions are hidden by the water radiator so need to be fitted before the radiator is installed (or can I get at them from the aft side?) The hose clips for the water radiator connexions will be out on top of the duct so should be fitted before the duct is installed (or can I get at them by reaching down through the engine mount?) . . . and so it goes on . . . Has anyone got a sequence of assembly that works? Or on the other had, can anyone offer suggestions about what definitely NOT to do? in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 11:59:42 AM PST US
    From: Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: lock-wiring 912 sump banjo bolt
    Hi Rowland There should be a small hole along the sump seam close to the banjo. There is on my engine Regards Richard > On 18 Nov 2018, at 18:31, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Im about to adjust the position of the oil sump banjo on my 912S, as advised in the Europa FWF manual. I note that the head of the banjo bolt is drilled and so I will lock-wire it after re-positioning the banjo. But I cant see any handy place nearby on which to anchor the lock-wire. Does anyone have any suggestions, or have I missed something really obvious? (quite likely!) > > in friendship > > Rowland > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:09:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: order of assembly for cooling duct, radiators and hoses
    From: david park <dpark748@me.com>
    If it helps, i fitted Nevs cowls, with his help. It was a straight swap with the cooling system in place. Only had to re-seal with rubber sheet around edges and bottom of radiator Dave Park > On 18 Nov 2018, at 18:48, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Im trying to figure out the optimum sequence of assembly (or even a sequence that is possible!) for the various cooling items on my XS monowheel, with Neville Eyre cowl and Rotax 912S. > > Ive listed which things need to be done before others - eg: > > The long bolts and spacers securing the oil cooler will be much easier to fit before the duct is mounted to the firewall. > > The bolts holding the duct sides to the CD4/CD5 brackets are obstructed by the oil cooler and water radiator, so need to be fitted first > > The hose clips for the oil cooler connexions are hidden by the water radiator so need to be fitted before the radiator is installed (or can I get at them from the aft side?) > > The hose clips for the water radiator connexions will be out on top of the duct so should be fitted before the duct is installed (or can I get at them by reaching down through the engine mount?) > > . . . and so it goes on . . . > > > Has anyone got a sequence of assembly that works? Or on the other had, can anyone offer suggestions about what definitely NOT to do? > > in friendship > > Rowland > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:11:14 PM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: order of assembly for cooling duct, radiators and hoses
    Rowland, Just a quick note on the FWF for a Europa. Make your life easy and install nutplates for as much as you can. Get prop er tools for dimpling metal, the TAPK 33 and 36 rivets are fine for FWF wor k. Install nutplates in the cowl.. I don=92t use camlocks or quick release s as they get dropped, lost, break, and are of many different lengths. I u se 507 stainless AN screws from 1/2 down the sides, 5/8, and =BE to 1 inch for the circumference and longer ones for the lower cowl area. All ducting mounted to the aircraft should be on nutplates. Contact me off line for how to do cowl nutplates single handedly. Once the engine is on, level and with proper offset, fit your spinner backp late to the prop flange. Install your exhaust system. The CKT exhaust must be installed as far aft as is possible for proper clea rance. The Rotax muffler should be as far aft as possible also. Make sure the exhaust knuckles or cups in the muffler are properly sealed. Fit the cowl next and make sure the it is aligned with the spinner. Don=92 t make the mistake of fitting the back first then the sides. Tape the lowe r cowl on first. Yes use painters tape. It is best to get a good fit down the sides. Then check if the cowl must be cut to clear the muffler, exhau st pipes, etc. Mark the lower cowl for aft side fit. I like 1/8 inch from t he spinner and its backplate to the cowl. Install a cleco if you have to i n the lower cowl and tape the front of the cowl to the spinner/backplate to hold the front up. The upper cowl goes on next. It may overhang a bit. Trim the upper for a smooth fit. Cleco together to a nice smooth finish pu lling the upper cowl as you drill for a tight fit. Then apply the rest o f the clecos. Pull the cowl when satisfied. Install the ducting next. It=92s a waste to paint it first. Get it clear anced and fitted first. Plan for access to your hose clamps. Trial fit the radiator and oil cooler for proper fastener clearance and orientation. Usually one =BC inch bolt for the radiator doubles as a brace bolt also. A thin set of ignition wren ches works to hold the bolt heads during install with the nuts on the outbo ard side. The starboard side brace can use a hole to get to the radiator c lamp. I like to get to the oil ones via the top or back. Yes a long exten sion can get to the hose clamps on a normal trigear, but for the mono/Singl eton firewall you must get it on from the back. Always Clearance around t he muffler on the port side. Cut that half moon that is there out a bit mo re to suite... Yes some of the metal on the duct can be cut down a bit. D rill and cleco per the manual. This will make any changes to your hoses an d whatnot a simple task of a few seconds with a ratcheting wrench. Don=92t fret about the two nutplates in the rear duct. Use a Dremel with a Permag rit or other routing bit and make your relief of the fire wall material and dimple your nutplate and rivet it home. Finally, don=92t forget that a couple of special tools will make your job e asier. Make a short wrench to support and tighten the oil fittings by cutt ing off existing proper wrenches to fit. See my cooling 101 article on my website to get ducting ideas. Best Regards, Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations, Inc. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr onics.com> on behalf of Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 1:48:14 PM Subject: Europa-List: order of assembly for cooling duct, radiators and hos es I=92m trying to figure out the optimum sequence of assembly (or even a sequ ence that is possible!) for the various cooling items on my XS monowheel, w ith Neville Eyre cowl and Rotax 912S. I=92ve listed which things need to be done before others - eg: The long bolts and spacers securing the oil cooler will be much easier to f it before the duct is mounted to the firewall. The bolts holding the duct sides to the CD4/CD5 brackets are obstructed by the oil cooler and water radiator, so need to be fitted first The hose clips for the oil cooler connexions are hidden by the water radiat or so need to be fitted before the radiator is installed (or can I get at t hem from the aft side?) The hose clips for the water radiator connexions will be out on top of the duct so should be fitted before the duct is installed (or can I get at them by reaching down through the engine mount?) . . . and so it goes on . . . Has anyone got a sequence of assembly that works? Or on the other had, can anyone offer suggestions about what definitely NOT to do? in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.o utlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rowlandcarson.org.uk&amp;data=02%7C01% 7C%7Ce930d9038ed14fa60b8b08d64d8822b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C 1%7C0%7C636781644418324277&amp;sdata=j4Xfn2OVZoLJW25EL9tBq7A99bdsVPK7GXvM ItzlMMQ%3D&amp;reserved=0 | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson url=www.mypilotstore.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce930d9038ed14fa60b8b08d6 4d8822b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636781644418324277&am p;sdata=H60%2B%2B3zRILc3i4Ubq3qkGPEgRj%2Fau30ZpBjt7RrjBnQ%3D&amp;reserved =0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce930d9038ed14f a60b8b08d64d8822b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63678164441 8324277&amp;sdata=AZYox7SFrnfd%2Bwr6sZLhaDjC%2BwW9D3BtPE64m%2Fms%2Fbs%3D& amp;reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce93 0d9038ed14fa60b8b08d64d8822b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C 636781644418324277&amp;sdata=co6iuyZX3g98uYYkUjNDqikp792y%2F8xa8M%2Frrwqw Oww%3D&amp;reserved=0 F%2Fforums.matronics.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce930d9038ed14fa60b8b08d64d 8822b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636781644418324277&amp; sdata=WpK9wGmIfsGUoLq6VwmhITQebDQDHHOetiT3a3xCSDY%3D&amp;reserved=0 F%2Fwiki.matronics.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce930d9038ed14fa60b8b08d64d88 22b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636781644418324277&amp;sd ata=U%2Bs3n%2BOeH2xA%2BIP5M88uVixWPzdJLGF82wwd8sRhXwM%3D&amp;reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce930d9038ed14f a60b8b08d64d8822b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63678164441 8324277&amp;sdata=AZYox7SFrnfd%2Bwr6sZLhaDjC%2BwW9D3BtPE64m%2Fms%2Fbs%3D& amp;reserved=0


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    Time: 10:57:37 PM PST US
    From: "roddy kesterton" <roddyeuropa@aol.com>
    Subject: lock-wiring 912 sump banjo bolt
    Hi Roland Long wirelock up to the lower Jubilee clip that holds the oil tank onto its bracket works. Regards Roddy Kesterton G-IKRK -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Rowland Carson Sent: 18 November 2018 18:31 Subject: Europa-List: lock-wiring 912 sump banjo bolt --> <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> Im about to adjust the position of the oil sump banjo on my 912S, as advised in the Europa FWF manual. I note that the head of the banjo bolt is drilled and so I will lock-wire it after re-positioning the banjo. But I cant see any handy place nearby on which to anchor the lock-wire. Does anyone have any suggestions, or have I missed something really obvious? (quite likely!) in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson




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