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1. 07:48 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 (Gary Leinberger)
2. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 (Tim Ward)
3. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 (Richard Scanlan)
4. 11:32 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 (Mike Christine Duane)
5. 11:48 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 (Tim Ward)
6. 01:09 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 (Mike Christine Duane)
7. 05:08 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 (Tim Ward)
8. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 (bill)
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 |
I am 6 foot (and shrinking) but I find the hi-top to be a really good idea
- besides the extra room (I also did the extra width kit), it feels much ro
omier. My Europa is the same interior width as the Mooney I fly, but feels
much more roomy. My wife also prefers flying in the Europa because of the r
oom. It is also faster than the regular Europa - Bud Yerly, who has built n
umerous 912S powered Europa's says the same thing - mine is the fastest 912
S he has flown. Flat out at a 1000 feet I get 137 knots. I have heard simil
ar reports from other high tops. Doesn't make sense as cross section is lar
ger, but aeronautics is a black art. When I am in a regular Europa I feel l
ike I am flying a 1957 Porsche Speedster with the top up. The room may be t
here, but I am always bending my neck to see out the windshield. The extra
2.5 inches or so is really worth while.
On the cracked frames - didn't we glue in reinforcement tubes inside the f
rame during the build? I remember doing so but not sure if it was the top o
r bottom arms. I don't have a manual handy - has anyone else noticed that t
he weight of all the notebooks and auxiliary material almost equals the dry
weight of the Europa?
Gary Leinberger
A237
375 hours
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1. 03:03 AM - Re: Ordering from Europa (Remi Guerner)
2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Ordering from Europa (Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr)
________________________________ Message 1 ______________________________
_______
Time: 03:03:14 AM PST US
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response from Kar
en on
Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods were s
hipped
on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to France,
that's
long but not Europa's fault.
The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, excellen
t quality.
Remi
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
________________________________ Message 2 ______________________________
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Time: 10:02:31 AM PST US
From: "Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr" <olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
I Order the same hose in the beginning of the year, good quality and best t
ime
to receive the packet. 5 days.
Olivier
> Le 22 dc. 2018 12:02, Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr> a crit :
>
>
> I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response from K
aren
on Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods wer
e
shipped on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
> Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to France
, that's
long but not Europa's fault.
> The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, excell
ent
quality.
> Remi
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 |
Gary,
We did the top tubes arms of the Engine Frame, not the bottom.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Mob +64 210640221
> On 24/12/2018, at 4:48 AM, Gary Leinberger <Gary.Leinberger@millersville.e
du> wrote:
>
> I am 6 foot (and shrinking) but I find the hi-top to be a really good idea
- besides the extra room (I also did the extra width kit), it feels much ro
omier. My Europa is the same interior width as the Mooney I fly, but feels m
uch more roomy. My wife also prefers flying in the Europa because of the roo
m. It is also faster than the regular Europa - Bud Yerly, who has built nume
rous 912S powered Europa's says the same thing - mine is the fastest 912S he
has flown. Flat out at a 1000 feet I get 137 knots. I have heard similar re
ports from other high tops. Doesn't make sense as cross section is larger, b
ut aeronautics is a black art. When I am in a regular Europa I feel like I a
m flying a 1957 Porsche Speedster with the top up. The room may be there, bu
t I am always bending my neck to see out the windshield. The extra 2.5 inche
s or so is really worth while.
>
> On the cracked frames - didn't we glue in reinforcement tubes inside the f
rame during the build? I remember doing so but not sure if it was the top or
bottom arms. I don't have a manual handy - has anyone else noticed that the
weight of all the notebooks and auxiliary material almost equals the dry we
ight of the Europa?
>
> Gary Leinberger
> A237
> 375 hours
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@mat
ronics.com> on behalf of Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronics.co
m>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:34:30 AM
> To: Europa-List Digest List
> Subject: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18
>
> *
>
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> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
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>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Ordering from Europa (Remi Guerner)
> 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Ordering from Europa (Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 03:03:14 AM PST US
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
> From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>
>
> I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response from Ka
ren on
> Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods were s
hipped
> on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
> Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to France,
that's
> long but not Europa's fault.
> The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, excelle
nt quality.
> Remi
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 10:02:31 AM PST US
> From: "Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr" <olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>
>
> I Order the same hose in the beginning of the year, good quality and best t
ime
> to receive the packet. 5 days.
>
> Olivier
>
> > Le 22 dc. 2018 12:02, Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr> a crit :
> >
> >
> > I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response from K
aren
> on Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods we
re
> shipped on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
> > Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to Franc
e, that's
> long but not Europa's fault.
> > The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, excel
lent
> quality.
> > Remi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 |
I often get comments about being 6=995=99=99 and
fitting into a Europa, but with the high top it=99s fine and tour
in it a lot round the Iberia peninsula, probably the tallest Europa
pilot in the fleet!
Richard Scanlan
G-CEIW
> On 23 Dec 2018, at 17:30, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Gary,
> We did the top tubes arms of the Engine Frame, not the bottom.
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch, 8052
> New Zealand
>
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz <mailto:ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
>
> Mob +64 210640221
>
>
> On 24/12/2018, at 4:48 AM, Gary Leinberger
<Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu
<mailto:Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu>> wrote:
>
>> I am 6 foot (and shrinking) but I find the hi-top to be a really good
idea - besides the extra room (I also did the extra width kit), it feels
much roomier. My Europa is the same interior width as the Mooney I fly,
but feels much more roomy. My wife also prefers flying in the Europa
because of the room. It is also faster than the regular Europa - Bud
Yerly, who has built numerous 912S powered Europa's says the same thing
- mine is the fastest 912S he has flown. Flat out at a 1000 feet I get
137 knots. I have heard similar reports from other high tops. Doesn't
make sense as cross section is larger, but aeronautics is a black art.
When I am in a regular Europa I feel like I am flying a 1957 Porsche
Speedster with the top up. The room may be there, but I am always
bending my neck to see out the windshield. The extra 2.5 inches or so is
really worth while.
>>
>> On the cracked frames - didn't we glue in reinforcement tubes inside
the frame during the build? I remember doing so but not sure if it was
the top or bottom arms. I don't have a manual handy - has anyone else
noticed that the weight of all the notebooks and auxiliary material
almost equals the dry weight of the Europa?
>>
>> Gary Leinberger
>> A237
>> 375 hours
>>
>>
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
<owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>> on behalf of
Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronics.com
<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:34:30 AM
>> To: Europa-List Digest List
>> Subject: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18
>>
>> *
>>
>> ========================
>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>> ========================
>>
>> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of
the
>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest
formatted
>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
Indexes
>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII
version
>> of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text
editor
>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>
>> HTML Version:
>>
>>
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&C
hapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
<http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&
Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa>
>>
>> Text Version:
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apter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
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hapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa>
>>
>>
>> ======================
>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>> ======================
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Europa-List Digest Archive
>> ---
>> Total Messages Posted Sat 12/22/18: 2
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Today's Message Index:
>> ----------------------
>>
>> 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Ordering from Europa (Remi Guerner)
>> 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Ordering from Europa
(Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr <mailto:Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>)
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:03:14 AM PST US
>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>> From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr
<mailto:air.guerner@orange.fr>>
>>
>>
>> I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response
from Karen on
>> Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods
were shipped
>> on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
>> Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to
France, that's
>> long but not Europa's fault.
>> The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great,
excellent quality.
>> Remi
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:02:31 AM PST US
>> From: "Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr <mailto:Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>"
<olivier.hequet@neuf.fr <mailto:olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>
>>
>> I Order the same hose in the beginning of the year, good quality and
best time
>> to receive the packet. 5 days.
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> > Le 22 dc. 2018 12:02, Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr
<mailto:air.guerner@orange.fr>> a crit :
>> >
>> >
>> > I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response
from Karen
>> on Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the
goods were
>> shipped on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa
Aircraft.
>> > Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to
France, that's
>> long but not Europa's fault.
>> > The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great,
excellent
>> quality.
>> > Remi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> Month --
>> Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
>> r> tstore.com <http://tstore.com/>">www.mypilotstore.com
<http://www.mypilotstore.com/>
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<http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18 |
For those that are still in the building cycle, or even those wishing to ret
rofit, would it be worth doing the same fix to the bottom tubes?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Gary,
> We did the top tubes arms of the Engine Frame, not the bottom.
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch, 8052
> New Zealand
>
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>
> Mob +64 210640221
>
>
>> On 24/12/2018, at 4:48 AM, Gary Leinberger <Gary.Leinberger@millersville.
edu> wrote:
>>
>> I am 6 foot (and shrinking) but I find the hi-top to be a really good ide
a - besides the extra room (I also did the extra width kit), it feels much r
oomier. My Europa is the same interior width as the Mooney I fly, but feels m
uch more roomy. My wife also prefers flying in the Europa because of the roo
m. It is also faster than the regular Europa - Bud Yerly, who has built nume
rous 912S powered Europa's says the same thing - mine is the fastest 912S he
has flown. Flat out at a 1000 feet I get 137 knots. I have heard similar re
ports from other high tops. Doesn't make sense as cross section is larger, b
ut aeronautics is a black art. When I am in a regular Europa I feel like I a
m flying a 1957 Porsche Speedster with the top up. The room may be there, bu
t I am always bending my neck to see out the windshield. The extra 2.5 inche
s or so is really worth while.
>>
>> On the cracked frames - didn't we glue in reinforcement tubes inside the
frame during the build? I remember doing so but not sure if it was the top o
r bottom arms. I don't have a manual handy - has anyone else noticed that th
e weight of all the notebooks and auxiliary material almost equals the dry w
eight of the Europa?
>>
>> Gary Leinberger
>> A237
>> 375 hours
>>
>>
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@ma
tronics.com> on behalf of Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronics.c
om>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:34:30 AM
>> To: Europa-List Digest List
>> Subject: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18
>>
>> *
>>
>> ========================
>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>> ========================
>>
>> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>> of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>
>> HTML Version:
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=h
tml&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>
>> Text Version:
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=t
xt&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>
>>
>> ======================
>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>> ======================
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Europa-List Digest Archive
>> ---
>> Total Messages Posted Sat 12/22/18: 2
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Today's Message Index:
>> ----------------------
>>
>> 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Ordering from Europa (Remi Guerner)
>> 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Ordering from Europa (Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr)
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1 ____________________________
_________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:03:14 AM PST US
>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>> From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>>
>>
>> I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response from K
aren on
>> Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods were
shipped
>> on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
>> Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to France
, that's
>> long but not Europa's fault.
>> The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, excell
ent quality.
>> Remi
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2 ____________________________
_________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:02:31 AM PST US
>> From: "Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr" <olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>
>>
>> I Order the same hose in the beginning of the year, good quality and best
time
>> to receive the packet. 5 days.
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> > Le 22 dc. 2018 12:02, Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr> a crit :
>> >
>> >
>> > I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response from
Karen
>> on Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods w
ere
>> shipped on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
>> > Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to Fran
ce, that's
>> long but not Europa's fault.
>> > The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, exce
llent
>> quality.
>> > Remi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> Month --
>> Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
>> r> tstore.com">www.mypilotstore.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>> ==========
>> st Email Forum -
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Mike,
Wait a little longer to hear the outcome of the survey and what EUROPA Compa
ny stipulate. Probably =98definitely=99 will be the answer.
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Mob +64 210640221
> On 24/12/2018, at 8:31 AM, Mike Christine Duane <DuaneFamly@aol.com> wrote
:
>
> For those that are still in the building cycle, or even those wishing to r
etrofit, would it be worth doing the same fix to the bottom tubes?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> Gary,
>> We did the top tubes arms of the Engine Frame, not the bottom.
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch, 8052
>> New Zealand
>>
>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>>
>> Mob +64 210640221
>>
>>
>>> On 24/12/2018, at 4:48 AM, Gary Leinberger <Gary.Leinberger@millersville
.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am 6 foot (and shrinking) but I find the hi-top to be a really good id
ea - besides the extra room (I also did the extra width kit), it feels much r
oomier. My Europa is the same interior width as the Mooney I fly, but feels m
uch more roomy. My wife also prefers flying in the Europa because of the roo
m. It is also faster than the regular Europa - Bud Yerly, who has built nume
rous 912S powered Europa's says the same thing - mine is the fastest 912S he
has flown. Flat out at a 1000 feet I get 137 knots. I have heard similar re
ports from other high tops. Doesn't make sense as cross section is larger, b
ut aeronautics is a black art. When I am in a regular Europa I feel like I a
m flying a 1957 Porsche Speedster with the top up. The room may be there, bu
t I am always bending my neck to see out the windshield. The extra 2.5 inche
s or so is really worth while.
>>>
>>> On the cracked frames - didn't we glue in reinforcement tubes inside th
e frame during the build? I remember doing so but not sure if it was the top
or bottom arms. I don't have a manual handy - has anyone else noticed that t
he weight of all the notebooks and auxiliary material almost equals the dry w
eight of the Europa?
>>>
>>> Gary Leinberger
>>> A237
>>> 375 hours
>>>
>>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@m
atronics.com> on behalf of Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronics.
com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:34:30 AM
>>> To: Europa-List Digest List
>>> Subject: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> ========================
>>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>>> ========================
>>>
>>> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatte
d
>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>>> of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>>
>>> HTML Version:
>>>
>>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=
html&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>>
>>> Text Version:
>>>
>>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=
txt&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>>
>>>
>>> ======================
>>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>>> ======================
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> Europa-List Digest Archive
>>> ---
>>> Total Messages Posted Sat 12/22/18: 2
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Today's Message Index:
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Ordering from Europa (Remi Guerner)
>>> 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Ordering from Europa (Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr
)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 1 ___________________________
__________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 03:03:14 AM PST US
>>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>> From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>>>
>>>
>>> I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response from K
aren on
>>> Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods wer
e shipped
>>> on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
>>> Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to Franc
e, that's
>>> long but not Europa's fault.
>>> The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, excel
lent quality.
>>> Remi
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 2 ___________________________
__________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 10:02:31 AM PST US
>>> From: "Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr" <olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>
>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>>
>>>
>>> I Order the same hose in the beginning of the year, good quality and bes
t time
>>> to receive the packet. 5 days.
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>> > Le 22 dc. 2018 12:02, Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr> a crit :
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response fro
m Karen
>>> on Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods w
ere
>>> shipped on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft
.
>>> > Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to Fra
nce, that's
>>> long but not Europa's fault.
>>> > The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, exc
ellent
>>> quality.
>>> > Remi
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>> >
>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ==========
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>>> Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
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I agree. I am flying but have done the top tubes during my build. I plugged t
he bottom tubes with silicone sealant to prevent airflow from the engine com
partment but could clean it out of the call came to do this.
On a side note, when is the best time, weather wise to visit NZ? We have a S
candinavian trip scheduled this summer but are looking past that.
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 23, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Mike,
> Wait a little longer to hear the outcome of the survey and what EUROPA Com
pany stipulate. Probably =98definitely=99 will be the answer.
> Tim
>
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch, 8052
> New Zealand
>
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>
> Mob +64 210640221
>
>
>> On 24/12/2018, at 8:31 AM, Mike Christine Duane <DuaneFamly@aol.com> wrot
e:
>>
>> For those that are still in the building cycle, or even those wishing to r
etrofit, would it be worth doing the same fix to the bottom tubes?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gary,
>>> We did the top tubes arms of the Engine Frame, not the bottom.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Tim Ward
>>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>>> Fendalton,
>>> Christchurch, 8052
>>> New Zealand
>>>
>>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>>>
>>> Mob +64 210640221
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 24/12/2018, at 4:48 AM, Gary Leinberger <Gary.Leinberger@millersvill
e.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am 6 foot (and shrinking) but I find the hi-top to be a really good i
dea - besides the extra room (I also did the extra width kit), it feels much
roomier. My Europa is the same interior width as the Mooney I fly, but feel
s much more roomy. My wife also prefers flying in the Europa because of the r
oom. It is also faster than the regular Europa - Bud Yerly, who has built nu
merous 912S powered Europa's says the same thing - mine is the fastest 912S h
e has flown. Flat out at a 1000 feet I get 137 knots. I have heard similar r
eports from other high tops. Doesn't make sense as cross section is larger, b
ut aeronautics is a black art. When I am in a regular Europa I feel like I a
m flying a 1957 Porsche Speedster with the top up. The room may be there, bu
t I am always bending my neck to see out the windshield. The extra 2.5 inche
s or so is really worth while.
>>>>
>>>> On the cracked frames - didn't we glue in reinforcement tubes inside t
he frame during the build? I remember doing so but not sure if it was the to
p or bottom arms. I don't have a manual handy - has anyone else noticed that
the weight of all the notebooks and auxiliary material almost equals the dr
y weight of the Europa?
>>>>
>>>> Gary Leinberger
>>>> A237
>>>> 375 hours
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@
matronics.com> on behalf of Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronics
.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:34:30 AM
>>>> To: Europa-List Digest List
>>>> Subject: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> ========================
>>>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>>>> ========================
>>>>
>>>> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>>>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatt
ed
>>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>>>> of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>>>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>>>
>>>> HTML Version:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=
html&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>>>
>>>> Text Version:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=
txt&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ======================
>>>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>>>> ======================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Europa-List Digest Archive
>>>> ---
>>>> Total Messages Posted Sat 12/22/18: 2
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Today's Message Index:
>>>> ----------------------
>>>>
>>>> 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Ordering from Europa (Remi Guerner)
>>>> 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Ordering from Europa (Olivier.hequet@neuf.f
r)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________ Message 1 __________________________
___________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 03:03:14 AM PST US
>>>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>>> From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response from
Karen on
>>>> Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods we
re shipped
>>>> on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
>>>> Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to Fran
ce, that's
>>>> long but not Europa's fault.
>>>> The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, exce
llent quality.
>>>> Remi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________ Message 2 __________________________
___________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 10:02:31 AM PST US
>>>> From: "Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr" <olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>
>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I Order the same hose in the beginning of the year, good quality and be
st time
>>>> to receive the packet. 5 days.
>>>>
>>>> Olivier
>>>>
>>>> > Le 22 dc. 2018 12:02, Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr> a crit :
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response fr
om Karen
>>>> on Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods
were
>>>> shipped on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraf
t.
>>>> > Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to Fra
nce, that's
>>>> long but not Europa's fault.
>>>> > The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, ex
cellent
>>>> quality.
>>>> > Remi
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ==========
>>>> Month --
>>>> Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
>>>> r> tstore.com">www.mypilotstore.com
>>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>>> ==========
>>>> st Email Forum -
>>>> pa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>>> ==========
>>>> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
>>>> ums.matronics.com
>>>> ==========
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>>>> matronics.com
>>>> ==========
>>>> p; - List Contribution Web Site -
>>>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> ==========
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Mike,
Good weather in New Zealand has shifted with Global Climatic changes. Now be
tter to visit late summer in the February/March period where it is more stab
le.
Do come and visit us in Christchurch, on =98main=99 scenic, rugg
ed and beautiful South Island of NZ.
All the best for the festive season.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Mob +64 210640221
> On 24/12/2018, at 10:09 AM, Mike Christine Duane <DuaneFamly@aol.com> wrot
e:
>
> I agree. I am flying but have done the top tubes during my build. I plugge
d the bottom tubes with silicone sealant to prevent airflow from the engine c
ompartment but could clean it out of the call came to do this.
> On a side note, when is the best time, weather wise to visit NZ? We have a
Scandinavian trip scheduled this summer but are looking past that.
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 23, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>> Wait a little longer to hear the outcome of the survey and what EUROPA Co
mpany stipulate. Probably =98definitely=99 will be the answer.
>> Tim
>>
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch, 8052
>> New Zealand
>>
>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>>
>> Mob +64 210640221
>>
>>
>>> On 24/12/2018, at 8:31 AM, Mike Christine Duane <DuaneFamly@aol.com> wro
te:
>>>
>>> For those that are still in the building cycle, or even those wishing to
retrofit, would it be worth doing the same fix to the bottom tubes?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gary,
>>>> We did the top tubes arms of the Engine Frame, not the bottom.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> Tim Ward
>>>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>>>> Fendalton,
>>>> Christchurch, 8052
>>>> New Zealand
>>>>
>>>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>>>>
>>>> Mob +64 210640221
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 24/12/2018, at 4:48 AM, Gary Leinberger <Gary.Leinberger@millersvil
le.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am 6 foot (and shrinking) but I find the hi-top to be a really good i
dea - besides the extra room (I also did the extra width kit), it feels much
roomier. My Europa is the same interior width as the Mooney I fly, but feel
s much more roomy. My wife also prefers flying in the Europa because of the r
oom. It is also faster than the regular Europa - Bud Yerly, who has built nu
merous 912S powered Europa's says the same thing - mine is the fastest 912S h
e has flown. Flat out at a 1000 feet I get 137 knots. I have heard similar r
eports from other high tops. Doesn't make sense as cross section is larger, b
ut aeronautics is a black art. When I am in a regular Europa I feel like I a
m flying a 1957 Porsche Speedster with the top up. The room may be there, bu
t I am always bending my neck to see out the windshield. The extra 2.5 inche
s or so is really worth while.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the cracked frames - didn't we glue in reinforcement tubes inside t
he frame during the build? I remember doing so but not sure if it was the to
p or bottom arms. I don't have a manual handy - has anyone else noticed that
the weight of all the notebooks and auxiliary material almost equals the dr
y weight of the Europa?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary Leinberger
>>>>> A237
>>>>> 375 hours
>>>>>
>>>>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server
@matronics.com> on behalf of Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronic
s.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:34:30 AM
>>>>> To: Europa-List Digest List
>>>>> Subject: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================
=
>>>>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>>>>> =======================
=
>>>>>
>>>>> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>>>>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest format
ted
>>>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexe
s
>>>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII versio
n
>>>>> of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>>>>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTML Version:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=
html&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>>>>
>>>>> Text Version:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=
txt&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================
>>>>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>>>>> =======================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Europa-List Digest Archive
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Total Messages Posted Sat 12/22/18: 2
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Today's Message Index:
>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Ordering from Europa (Remi Guerner)
>>>>> 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Ordering from Europa (Olivier.hequet@neuf.
fr)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________ Message 1 _________________________
____________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: 03:03:14 AM PST US
>>>>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>>>> From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response fro
m Karen on
>>>>> Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the goods w
ere shipped
>>>>> on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
>>>>> Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to Fra
nce, that's
>>>>> long but not Europa's fault.
>>>>> The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, exc
ellent quality.
>>>>> Remi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________ Message 2 _________________________
____________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: 10:02:31 AM PST US
>>>>> From: "Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr" <olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I Order the same hose in the beginning of the year, good quality and b
est time
>>>>> to receive the packet. 5 days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>
>>>>> > Le 22 dc. 2018 12:02, Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr> a crit :
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a response f
rom Karen
>>>>> on Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the good
s were
>>>>> shipped on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircra
ft.
>>>>> > Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK to Fra
nce, that's
>>>>> long but not Europa's fault.
>>>>> > The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks great, e
xcellent
>>>>> quality.
>>>>> > Remi
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ==========
>>>>> Month --
>>>>> Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
>>>>> r> tstore.com">www.mypilotstore.com
>>>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>>>> ==========
>>>>> st Email Forum -
>>>>> pa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>>>> ==========
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Mike ,
Be sure to visit us too whenever you journey to NZ.
We are in the North Island.
Best regards
Sue and Bill Sisley
XS Mono 914 Airmaster 1300ish hrs
On 24/12/2018 2:07 PM, Tim Ward wrote:
> Mike,
> Good weather in New Zealand has shifted with Global Climatic changes.
> Now better to visit late summer in the February/March period where it
> is more stable.
> Do come and visit us in Christchurch, on main scenic, rugged and
> beautiful South Island of NZ.
> All the best for the festive season.
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch, 8052
> New Zealand
>
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz <mailto:ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
>
> Mob +64 210640221
>
>
> On 24/12/2018, at 10:09 AM, Mike Christine Duane <DuaneFamly@aol.com
> <mailto:DuaneFamly@aol.com>> wrote:
>
>> I agree. I am flying but have done the top tubes during my build. I
>> plugged the bottom tubes with silicone sealant to prevent airflow
>> from the engine compartment but could clean it out of the call came
>> to do this.
>> On a side note, when is the best time, weather wise to visit NZ? We
>> have a Scandinavian trip scheduled this summer but are looking past
>> that.
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>> <mailto:ward.t@xtra.co.nz>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike,
>>> Wait a little longer to hear the outcome of the survey and what
>>> EUROPA Company stipulate. Probably definitely will be the answer.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Tim Ward
>>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>>> Fendalton,
>>> Christchurch, 8052
>>> New Zealand
>>>
>>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz <mailto:ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
>>>
>>> Mob +64 210640221
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24/12/2018, at 8:31 AM, Mike Christine Duane <DuaneFamly@aol.com
>>> <mailto:DuaneFamly@aol.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those that are still in the building cycle, or even those
>>>> wishing to retrofit, would it be worth doing the same fix to the
>>>> bottom tubes?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>>>> <mailto:ward.t@xtra.co.nz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gary,
>>>>> We did the top tubes arms of the Engine Frame, not the bottom.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Ward
>>>>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>>>>> Fendalton,
>>>>> Christchurch, 8052
>>>>> New Zealand
>>>>>
>>>>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz <mailto:ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mob +64 210640221
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24/12/2018, at 4:48 AM, Gary Leinberger
>>>>> <Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu
>>>>> <mailto:Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am 6 foot (and shrinking) but I find the hi-top to be a really
>>>>>> good idea - besides the extra room (I also did the extra width
>>>>>> kit), it feels much roomier. My Europa is the same interior width
>>>>>> as the Mooney I fly, but feels much more roomy. My wife also
>>>>>> prefers flying in the Europa because of the room. It is also
>>>>>> faster than the regular Europa - Bud Yerly, who has built
>>>>>> numerous 912S powered Europa's says the same thing - mine is the
>>>>>> fastest 912S he has flown. Flat out at a 1000 feet I get 137
>>>>>> knots. I have heard similar reports from other high tops. Doesn't
>>>>>> make sense as cross section is larger, but aeronautics is a black
>>>>>> art. When I am in a regular Europa I feel like I am flying a 1957
>>>>>> Porsche Speedster with the top up. The room may be there, but I
>>>>>> am always bending my neck to see out the windshield. The extra
>>>>>> 2.5 inches or so is really worth while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the cracked frames - didn't we glue in reinforcement tubes
>>>>>> inside the frame during the build? I remember doing so but not
>>>>>> sure if it was the top or bottom arms. I don't have a manual
>>>>>> handy - has anyone else noticed that the weight of all the
>>>>>> notebooks and auxiliary material almost equals the dry weight of
>>>>>> the Europa?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary Leinberger
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A237
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 375 hours
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>>>>> <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
>>>>>> <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>>>>> <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>> on behalf of
>>>>>> Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronics.com
>>>>>> <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:34:30 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Europa-List Digest List
>>>>>> *Subject:* Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/22/18
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ========================
>>>>>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>>>>>> ========================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest
>>>>>> formatted
>>>>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
>>>>>> Indexes
>>>>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text
>>>>>> editor
>>>>>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTML Version:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Text Version:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 18-12-22&Archive=Europa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ======================
>>>>>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>>>>>> ======================
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Europa-List Digest Archive
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Total Messages Posted Sat 12/22/18: 2
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's Message Index:
>>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Ordering from Europa (Remi Guerner)
>>>>>> 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>>>>> (Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr <mailto:Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________ Message 1
>>>>>> _____________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time: 03:03:14 AM PST US
>>>>>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>>>>> From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr
>>>>>> <mailto:air.guerner@orange.fr>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a
>>>>>> response from Karen on
>>>>>> Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the
>>>>>> goods were shipped
>>>>>> on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa Aircraft.
>>>>>> Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK
>>>>>> to France, that's
>>>>>> long but not Europa's fault.
>>>>>> The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks
>>>>>> great, excellent quality.
>>>>>> Remi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________ Message 2
>>>>>> _____________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time: 10:02:31 AM PST US
>>>>>> From: "Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr <mailto:Olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>"
>>>>>> <olivier.hequet@neuf.fr <mailto:olivier.hequet@neuf.fr>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ordering from Europa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I Order the same hose in the beginning of the year, good quality
>>>>>> and best time
>>>>>> to receive the packet. 5 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Le 22 dc. 2018 12:02, Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr
>>>>>> <mailto:air.guerner@orange.fr>> a crit :
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I sent a request for quote by e-mail on Saturday 8, got a
>>>>>> response from Karen
>>>>>> on Monday 10, placed my order, then got another e-mail saying the
>>>>>> goods were
>>>>>> shipped on Tuesday 11. That is an excellent service from Europa
>>>>>> Aircraft.
>>>>>> > Parts received this morning: 11 days for travelling from the UK
>>>>>> to France, that's
>>>>>> long but not Europa's fault.
>>>>>> > The products (red silicone hoses for the XS radiator) looks
>>>>>> great, excellent
>>>>>> quality.
>>>>>> > Remi
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486483#486483
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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