---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/10/19: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:22 AM - tailplane soft foam picture LAA mag UK (graeme bird) 2. 04:48 AM - Re: tailplane soft foam picture LAA mag UK (Peter Zutrauen) 3. 09:30 AM - Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 (Pete Lawless) 4. 10:00 AM - Re: Arplast Propeller problems (Matt Dovey) 5. 12:06 PM - Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? (graeme bird) 6. 12:35 PM - Re: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? (david park) 7. 12:38 PM - Re: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? (david park) 8. 01:16 PM - Re: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? (spcialeffects) 9. 02:25 PM - Re: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? (Kelvin Weston) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:33 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: tailplane soft foam picture LAA mag UK From: "graeme bird" Not sure what to make of the pic page 49 of the LAA mag Jan 2019, showing a tailplane with the skin removed in 6 big rectangles completely trashing it and saying that something has made the foam go soft and spongy. Lots of that foam around uncared for and its still as it ever was. It mentions contamination but how on the leading edge? I think I would have explored some other ways like small holes and expanding foam. I guess the only way in is via the tube and something ominous has been used to clean/lubricate it and its run down the inside to the leading edge. Maybe it was condensation/water logging then ice? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, Smart A3 350 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486863#486863 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190110_110415_1_525.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:59 AM PST US From: Peter Zutrauen Subject: Re: Europa-List: tailplane soft foam picture LAA mag UK Holy-moly! what could have happened there? Protected from sunlight, the blue foam does not degrade without some reacting chemical involved (like acetone etc). Curiosity from this side of the pond: Are there other LAA europa articles I am missing out on? Is there an LAA back-issue list of Europa articles? Thx, Pete On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 6:29 AM graeme bird wrote: > > Not sure what to make of the pic page 49 of the LAA mag Jan 2019, showing > a tailplane with the skin removed in 6 big rectangles completely trashing > it and saying that something has made the foam go soft and spongy. > Lots of that foam around uncared for and its still as it ever was. It > mentions contamination but how on the leading edge? I think I would have > explored some other ways like small holes and expanding foam. > I guess the only way in is via the tube and something ominous has been > used to clean/lubricate it and its run down the inside to the leading edge. > Maybe it was condensation/water logging then ice? > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini > 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD > on Nexus, Smart A3 > 350 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486863#486863 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190110_110415_1_525.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:08 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 From: Pete Lawless Hi All A flashing fuel pressure light, probably caused by a failing pressure sensor, got me thinking about a spare fuel pump for the 912ul in my Classic. I believe the new Rotax pump with the drain will not fit in the Classic as it touches the radiator. I looked on the Ruddies-Berlin website but they do not seem to offer the 7.2097155 anymore. Any ideas where I might find one UK or Europe or is there an alternative pump that will fit the Classic layout? Thanks Pete G-RMAC Classic #109 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:52 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Arplast Propeller problems From: "Matt Dovey" Bob glad you fixed it. I found that the motor and gearbox were easy to get hold of. I contacted the motors manufactures UK distributor. The guy I talked to knew all about the which motor and gearbox to use and that it was used on propellers. The parts were expensive. I don't think you necessarily need to buy the gearbox. The lead time was about six weeks. With regard to following the manufactures maintenance requirements. There isn't to much information to help you. I cycle the propeller before flight with the engine running. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486875#486875 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:19 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? From: "graeme bird" Just got a quote from Mouldlife for redux and ampreg30 (replaces 21?) I don't really need 18ltrs of Ampreg at 600; do Europa do smaller bottles or has anyone in the UK got any with 2-3 years life in? I just need some to patch the top of the rudder, do the tailplane retention mod; put the wing farings on, attach the baggage bay floor and fuel filler, bits and bobs really. I have some old stuff. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, Smart A3 350 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486881#486881 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? From: david park I got some on the internet, cant remember the supplier but google must know. It comes in a tube with both components that you mix after pushing out. Wasnt more than 20 Dave Park > On 10 Jan 2019, at 20:05, graeme bird wrote: > > > Just got a quote from Mouldlife for redux and ampreg30 (replaces 21?) I don't really need 18ltrs of Ampreg at 600; do Europa do smaller bottles or has anyone in the UK got any with 2-3 years life in? I just need some to patch the top of the rudder, do the tailplane retention mod; put the wing farings on, attach the baggage bay floor and fuel filler, bits and bobs really. I have some old stuff. > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, Smart A3 > 350 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486881#486881 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? From: david park Sorry thought you meant Redux Dave Park > On 10 Jan 2019, at 20:34, david park wrote: > > I got some on the internet, cant remember the supplier but google must know. > It comes in a tube with both components that you mix after pushing out. > Wasnt more than 20 > > Dave Park > > >> On 10 Jan 2019, at 20:05, graeme bird wrote: >> >> >> Just got a quote from Mouldlife for redux and ampreg30 (replaces 21?) I don't really need 18ltrs of Ampreg at 600; do Europa do smaller bottles or has anyone in the UK got any with 2-3 years life in? I just need some to patch the top of the rudder, do the tailplane retention mod; put the wing farings on, attach the baggage bay floor and fuel filler, bits and bobs really. I have some old stuff. >> >> -------- >> Graeme Bird >> G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, Smart A3 >> 350 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total >> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486881#486881 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:55 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? From: "spcialeffects" Hi Graeme. You can get the redux in some tubes but youll need a gun too. https://www.silmid.com/adhesives/epoxy-adhesives/araldite-420a-b-adhesive-200ml/ Not sure about the ampreg stuff as its now a year or more since needing any Regards Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486884#486884 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:20 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ampreg21 - 30 anyone have any spare uk? From: "Kelvin Weston" Hi Graeme I purchased some Ampreg 21 from Marineware recently. I think it was a 3.6 Kg pack: https://www.marineware.com/index.php/products/composites/ampreg-21-detail I'm not sure you could use Ampreg 30 as a replacement until approved by Europa / LAA. There was a similar situation when it changed from Ampreg 20 to 21. I had to wait for Europa to supply the LAA with proof that it met the required specifications. When the LAA were satisfied, Europa issued a letter to all builders approving Ampreg 21 for use. Araldite 420 is available from Silmid and also LAS. I have brought recently from Silmid. It comes in a 200ml cartridge or 1.4 Kg pack. -------- Regards Kelv Weston Kit 497 kelv@kdweston.biz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486886#486886 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.