---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/20/19: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:22 AM - Re: switch for Flap motor (John Wighton) 2. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: switch for Flap motor (Robert Borger) 3. 01:36 PM - Cracked Frames (Pete Jeffers) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:00 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: switch for Flap motor From: "John Wighton" I would really like to change my hold up or down flap buttons for a 3 position switch. Retraction or full deployment takes around 12 secs which is way too long to have your hands off the throttle. Does anybody have information on how to modify the standard arrangement? Regards John -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487096#487096 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:02 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: switch for Flap motor John, Since you are operating under the LAA, there should be a suitable mod approved already for this. If not, I guess you are prepared to blaze that trail yourself. Here in the USA, I=99d go to B&C Aero to purchase the necessary switch: https://www.bandc.aero/toggleswitch-doublepole.aspx The switch you need would be the S700-2-1, top of the list to the right (-1 ON-OFF-ON). You would wire it the same way as the existing (ON)-OFF-(ON) switch already installed with your build. The biggest problem would be changing from the big rectangular hole of the existing switch to the nice little round hole(s) of the toggle switch. If you prefer to stay with a rocker switch, McMaster-Carr has them: https://www.mcmaster.com/electrical-controls One of these might make the change easier. There=99s also ACS. They probably have a suitable switch in their stock: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/el/switches.html There should be a source for any of these switches in the UK, but I wouldn=99t know who that might be. Perhaps one of your Europa mates will come to your rescue. Lastly, why is it important to fuss so much with the flaps? The Europa is designed to climb well with the flaps fully extended. If things are a bit dicy with full flaps, you just take 3-4 seconds to get the flaps to 2/3 and then the climb has improved dramatically and you can take your time, 3-4 seconds at a time, to retract the remainder of the flaps. In any case, there are suitable alternatives to the Europa supplied spring-loaded-to-off switch. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (130 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jan 20, 2019, at 3:21 AM, John Wighton wrote: I would really like to change my =C3=A2=C2=C2=98hold up or down=C3=A2=C2 =C2=99 flap buttons for a 3 position switch. Retraction or full deployment takes around 12 secs which is way too long to have your hands off the throttle. Does anybody have information on how to modify the standard arrangement? Regards John -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:23 PM PST US From: "Pete Jeffers" Subject: Europa-List: Cracked Frames Just to update everyone re the Frame crack checks. So far I have received around 30 replies. As yet no cracks reported beyond the original two in the States. A couple of damaged frames have been reported after landing incidents, but these would seem to have come to light following incidents not associated with normal use and which only came to light during fairly major repair work after an accident. The Europa Flyer has just arrived on our doorsteps and this issue includes the same article as you may have seen on our web site. Since some members don't view our web site regularly, especially during the Northern Hemisphere winter, I am hoping for many more responses following the arrival of the 'paper version'. Answers are still requested in order to provide a greater cross section of results, so if you have not already done so, please find the time to look at your aircraft and return your findings to me. Please answer ALL questions whether or not you find any cracks or damage. 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