---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/25/19: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:17 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/24/19 (James Kelly) 2. 06:59 PM - XS Port wing stiffener misalignment (Brian Phillips) 3. 09:18 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__XS_Port_wing_stiffener_misalignment? () 4. 11:14 PM - Re: XS Port wing stiffener misalignment (Richard Wheelwright) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:09 AM PST US From: James Kelly Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/24/19 Has anyone fitted an Icon a220t in place of a Bendix King KX 155. If so was the refit easy or not. Cheers Jim G-BWEG On Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 07:37 Europa-List Digest Server < europa-list@matronics.com wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(John Wighton) > 2. 05:06 AM - Tinnerman Washers (Roger Sheridan) > 3. 12:33 PM - Re: Tinnerman Washers (Matt Dovey) > 4. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Anything for sale? (Fred Klein) > 5. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Anything for sale? (Fred Klein) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:06:22 AM PST US > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Anything for sale? > From: "John Wighton" > > > I would sell the engine and fit a Rotax. As l said its a project. > > JW > > -------- > John Wighton > Europa XS trigear G-IPOD > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487221#487221 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:06:04 AM PST US > From: Roger Sheridan > Subject: Europa-List: Tinnerman Washers > > > Does anybody know a UK stockist for stainless tinnerman washers apart from > Europa > & LAS please? > (I need about 40 for another project). > Thanks, > Roger > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:33:39 PM PST US > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Tinnerman Washers > From: "Matt Dovey" > > > You can try https://www.airpart.co.uk/ or https://www.adamsaviation.com/ > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487238#487238 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:17:59 PM PST US > From: Fred Klein > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Anything for sale? > > > Bruno Reith's Smart Turbo Europa took him down a unique path. As I recall, > the > installation was engineered by Otto Funk and a series of photos were > posted, I > believe, on this list. It appeared to be a carefully built aircraft w/ > much attention > to detail. I would be most curious to know what prevented flight testing. > I certainly hope it finds a new home with an adventurous owner. > > Fred > > > On Jan 24, 2019, at 12:05 AM, John Wighton wrote: > > > > > > I would sell the engine and fit a Rotax. As l said its a project. > > > > JW > > > > -------- > > John Wighton > > Europa XS trigear G-IPOD > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487221#487221 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:39:39 PM PST US > From: Fred Klein > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Anything for sale? > > A bit more regarding Bruno Reith=99s Europathe confusion > about whether it is a Classic or an XS stems from the fact that Bruno > had access to the forward portion of a Classic which he sent off to the > folks who were fabricating his engine mount and cowlings to use as a > jigthe aircraft itself is an XS with the exception of his > unique engine installation and cowlings. > > I pass along this text, written by Bruno back in 2007; unfortunately, I > can=99t seem to open the photos he=99d sent me: > > > On Monday, September 24, 2007, at 02:44 AM, UVTReith@aol.com > wrote: > > > > Hi Fred, > > > > at present the plane is still in Tschech Republic at the Europa > Aircraft workshop. > > They made "fine trimming and correcting of my built", engine > installation, painting and interieur. > > I will pick it up (800 km drive to that location) on the 3rd of > Oktober. > > > > As the job "fine trimming and correcting of my built" was taking > longer than I thought, I dought that I can do the first go before winter > time. Still some works to do like instrument and com/nav installations, > final inspection etc. I will do this in the workshop on our airfield > now. > > > > smartBrabus: > > I used a firewall from a crashed Classic Europa, installed this to a > steel tube working frame, getting the XS cowlling and gave this to > ecofly. They are using the smart engines (all same sizes) for their > microlights FK9. > > For the Europa we used the same engine mounting frame but laminated > Aluplates in the front of the fuselage and we are using on the upper > mounts an u-shaped alu bar to keep the engine torques. > > > > The cowling is changed with smaller inlet for the water cooler and two > larger inlets for the turbo charger cooler and for the combined > airbox/heat exchanger for cabin heater. > > > > The 23 A/h gel accu isn't installed at present, we do this here after > instrument installations etc. > > > > More about this Europa plane later, but I have added some > pics. > > > > There is however one bad point: > > It is nor quite sure, if Mercedes will produce this engine anymore. > > This engine was designed for the smart sport car and this production > was stopped. > > Maybe they will use this engine for the smart fourfour now, I don't > know. > > > > More info on that on www.ecofly.de , they have > all information also in english, including manual and info about the > MIP-System. The TBO of this engine is 2.000 hour and will go up to 2.500 > hours. > > I have of course also your wing cover with CreativeAir LED-nav. lights > and LED taillight. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 2019, at 3:51 AM, Roland > wrote: > > > > > > > > It's the Europa of Bruno Reith, the german Europa representative who > unfortunately died in 2015. It's (contrary to the Ad and AFAIK) > completely an XS Kit, not a Classic and is/was nicely finished from what > I have seen. The engine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofly_M160 > is quite interesting from > an economical point of view and state of the art, however not very > popular. > > > > Regards > > Roland > > PH-ZTI > > XS TG 914 > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487198#487198 > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:43 PM PST US From: Brian Phillips Subject: Europa-List: XS Port wing stiffener misalignment I have just commenced build work on my XS wings, and have found that the spanwise stiffener on the underside of the Port wing closure panel does not line up with the rebates in the ribs, causing the skin to sit too high and preventing a bond to the ribs, see spanwise photo. What have others done who have been through this issue? Many thanks, Brian Phillips Builder 489 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:48 PM PST US From: Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Europa-List:_XS_Port_wing_stiffener_misalignment? 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Simply put a flox Redux mix on the top W ith a plastic sheet on top of the stick stuff to stop them sticking together . Fitt the top skin. Remove the top skin after queuing. Trim the excess. Th en you should be good to finally fit the top skin. Pictures http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=G-IRPW&project =270&category=3124&log=73435&row=1 Regards Richard > On 26 Jan 2019, at 02:59, Brian Phillips wrote: > > I have just commenced build work on my XS wings, and have found that the s panwise stiffener on the underside of the Port wing closure panel does not l ine up with the rebates in the ribs, causing the skin to sit too high and pr eventing a bond to the ribs, see spanwise photo. What have others done who h ave been through this issue? > > > Many thanks, > > Brian Phillips > Builder 489 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.