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Wed 03/06/19


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 03:03 AM - stainless steel firewall fitting (Rowland Carson)
     2. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: I'm puzzled, again! (Rayfitton)
     3. 10:55 AM - Re: stainless steel firewall fitting (Kelvin Weston)
     4. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: stainless steel firewall fitting (Rowland Carson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:03:46 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: stainless steel firewall fitting
    Im having great difficulty getting the stainless steel firewall to fit between the LG frame and the rudder-pedal transverse shaft at the starboard side where there are 2 layers of stainless in a very tight gap. Does anyone have any clever ideas for persuading the SS into the required shape & position? I have a note that Bill Bell was doing a mod to solve this but I cant see a completed mod anywhere on the LAA Engineering mod web-pages. If Bill is out there, please let me know the status of that mod application, and any pictures/drawings that would help me understand it. in friendship Rowland Europa #435, LAA project 13482, G-RODO | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 05:46:51 AM PST US
    From: Rayfitton <rayfitton@virginmedia.com>
    Subject: Re: I'm puzzled, again!
    Unsubscribe > > On Mar 6, 2019 at 00:48, <Bud Yerly (mailto:budyerly=40msn.com)> wrot e: > > > > > > > Remi and Jonathan, > > > > Of course the early 912ULS were happier running backwards than forward. > > > > If you have done all you say you have, the list gets pretty small and e xpensive. > > > > > > > > Things which helped the kickback was most importantly, the soft start m odule and the new ignition modules (six wire). Careful assembly of the pickups on the electrics was also essential to assure the correct pickup went to the correct box. An early spark just as the valves close will kick right back. See your Rotax Heavy Mx manual. I have only seen this once on a very early Rotax 912ULS where the A&P found some broken wi res (another problem we all discussed before) and repaired the wires with new wires and didn=99t quite get everything wired back up right. What a nightmare. We ended up going to two new ignition boxes paying extreme attention to the pickup wiring and all was fine. I was chasti sed by Kerry at Lockwood for not changing both boxes initially, as tinker ing with one old box and putting only one newer one initially with the ol d one, really made a mess. Note that the timing controls changed as di d the flywheel pickups in the early 2000s then again around 2009. The new boxes even with the original flywheel really helped this plane. > > > > > > > > The high torque starter was also a help on some of these older engines with soft start or with starting on one ignition technique. On a 912/9 14 low compression, the low torque spins at about 300 RPM with a supercha rged battery or booster charger at 50 amps. The high torque starter sp ins at nearly 500 RPM on the 914. On the 912ULS I found the RPM still hit 400 plus which is more than enough for quick starts. The Skytec st arter is OK but I went with the Rotax. I was impressed and you know wh at a cynic I am=21 > > > > > > > > I would also check for a spun crank shaft or a valve timing problem. I don=99t do that in my shop. I pull the engine and go to Lo ckwood and have Kerry speck out the problem. A spun crank is nasty exp ensive and is usually better to replace the entire short block. Really expensive. =2414,000 min with labor. > > > > > > > > I had a sticky valve problem on two cylinders causing a problem which w as just that, sticky valves. We never could figure what actually cause d it but the kickback was spectacular. We redid the heads and that cle ared up the problem. Changed a slightly bent valve and a pushrod, lapp ed the valves, replaced valve springs (Service bulletin) and checked the crank and ignition modules which were OK. Heck of a thing. And only about =244300 which was a bargain considering two guys for 3 days plus e ngine runs at Lockwood. I suspect that the engine was over revved and hit a valve as there were some tell tale signs on the piston carbon of th e valves hitting. > > > > > > > > I=99m in =46lorida so cold engine starts occur only one month of the year for about 2 days. If the engine is really cold (below 0C) the cold oil and tight oil pump can slow the engine crank some 50 RPM on eve n a semisynthetic oil. Warm your engine with a blanket or something. I=99m not a fan of bock engine heaters that use the crankcase bol ts however, they make heat pads for the oil tank and crankcase that work if the cowl is wrapped fairly tight outdoors or in a hangar. A 100 wat t bulb in the intake works if you leave it for an hour and wrap the cowl tight. Mobile 1 MX4T or Motorcycle racing full synthetic oil helps, bu t warmth is always nice for quicker starts. > > > > > > > > Good luck. Remember you will find the problem. It is always the l ast place you check. > > > > > > > > Bud Yerly > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail (https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/=3FLinkId=550986) f or Windows 10 > > > > > > > > =46rom: owner-europa-list-server=40matronics.com <owner-europa-list-s erver=40matronics.com> on behalf of Remi Guerner <air.guerner=40orange. fr> > Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 12:27:46 PM > To: europa-list=40matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Re: I'm puzzled, again=21 > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: =22Remi Guerner=22 <air.guerner=40 orange.fr> > > As an addition to my previous post regarding the kick-back problem, I believe it is useful to add the following regarding the sprag clutch repl acement. After reviewing the different issues of the 912 IPC, from 2017 u p to now, I discovered that Rotax has made several changes in that area o ver the years. The sprag clutch itself has not been changed but the sprag clutch housing was modified several times. Housing P/N 852405 was introd uced in May 2008 with the following comment: =22new housing with expanded space for sprag clutch=22. Then in January 2017, P/N 852406 was introduc ed with the very same comment. I guess the changes were designed to impro ve the behaviour of the sprag clutch. > My conclusion: when replacing the sprag clutch, it is critical to repl ace also the housing and make sure the P/N is the last version. > > Remi > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php=3Fp=487913=23487913 > > > > > > > ========== > st Email =46orum - > pa-List=22>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator=3FEuropa-List > ========== > p; - MATRONICS WEB =46ORUMS - > ums.matronics.com > ========== > p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > matronics.com > ========== > p; - List Contribution Web Site - > p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > >


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    Time: 10:55:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: stainless steel firewall fitting
    From: "Kelvin Weston" <kelv@kdweston.biz>
    Hi Rowland I am copying Bill Bell's firewall mod but it is only suitable for the TriGear. It places the firewall aft of the landing gear mounting frame LG01 and against a dummy bulkhead placed in the TriGear tunnel. See factory Tech Tips No24 on the Europa Club website for the bulkhead details. Thin stainless steel and a ceramic fibre are used to make a lining against the bulkhead and the tunnel sides forward of the new bulkhead. I believe you are building a Mono so this mod will not help. -------- Regards Kelv Weston Kit 497 kelv@kdweston.biz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487954#487954


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    Time: 11:21:04 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: stainless steel firewall fitting
    On 2019-03-06, at 18:54, Kelvin Weston <kelv@kdweston.biz> wrote: > I am copying Bill Bell's firewall mod but it is only suitable for the TriGear. > I believe you are building a Mono so this mod will not help. Kelv - thanks, thats rather what I had feared. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson




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