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1. 12:07 AM - Re: Ditching (Trigear) (Hitchflight)
2. 03:08 AM - Re: Ditching (Trigear) (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
3. 07:40 AM - Great time at Sun 'n Fun (Bud Yerly)
4. 10:34 AM - Re: Great time at Sun 'n Fun (brian johnson)
5. 12:27 PM - Re: Outrigger Pivot Bearing Mod (10661 v2) (UK) (italianjon)
6. 01:09 PM - Help with Inner Tube (italianjon)
7. 03:39 PM - Re: Great time at Sun 'n Fun (Fred Klein)
8. 04:30 PM - Re: Re: Europa fuel sender mod (William Daniell)
9. 08:01 PM - Re: Help with Inner Tube (Martin Tuck)
10. 10:39 PM - Re: Outrigger Pivot Bearing Mod (10661 v2) (UK) (dmac7)
11. 10:56 PM - Re: Help with Inner Tube (italianjon)
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Subject: | Re: Ditching (Trigear) |
I can confirm that a Europa Mono XS floats for sometime.
But it does not float well. You get wet.
Not theory, all sadly very real. Now three years into new relationship with another
Europa XS Mono.
My standard equipment on long sea crossings is:
North Sea spec. RFD liferaft
Immersion suit
Life vest
PLB
Flares
Marker dye
Handheld radio
Multiple smaller survival items in grab bag.
I remove some of the above from the list on short sea crossings.
I strongly recommend participating in a sea survival course. Can recommend HOTA
Regards
Bob
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Subject: | Re: Ditching (Trigear) |
Peter, I would expect your XS to float more or less indefinitely as long
as the sea is not very rough and as long as you have not left holes in
the wings. If you have put in nav lights and left any sort of air gap
the wings will fill with water and you are then in thesame sort of
situation as a PA28, many of which have been timed as sinking in exactly
3 minutes! Regards, David Joyce,GXSDJ
On 2019-04-13 03:34, Pete wrote:
> Found it, thanks!
> https://www.theeuropaclub.org/flying/flight-safety [1]
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> On Apr 12, 2019, at 5:46 PM, houlihan@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
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> Hi Peter.
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> I recall reading about a "ditching" of a trigear Europa some years ago off South
America I saw the photo of the plane being brought ashore after ditching.
The story as I recall it was that the plane floated and was towed to the shore;
>
> See the photo of it floating quite buoyantly in an article in the Europa club website www.theeuropaclub.org [2] .
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> On 12 April 2019 at 17:00 Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
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> I had thought with the prepreg wings that it was a 'sinker'. The classic on the
other hand.....
>
> Cheers,
> Pete
>
>
> I am planning on flying abroad this year ,does anybody know whether my Europa
XS Trigear would float in the event of the ditching, and would it sustain one
or two people .Has anybody done any calculations on floatation. Regards Roger
G-CICA
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Subject: | Great time at Sun 'n Fun |
Well the Custom Flight Creations Sun =91n Fun was a better homecoming than
I thought initially. We had more Europa owners and visitors than I thought
considering there was a vicious front well to the North. Weather was good
except for Tuesday in the morning. A quick recovery and we were off and r
unning getting plenty of sun.
Many owners and visitors stopped in, and we had some great contacts, and gr
eat weather. Sorry I didn=92t get any photos but I have a mental condition
preventing me from remembering to do photo=92s. But I did get a great far
mers tan (lower arm and legs and face, and the rest burnt).
I see that after a week there was not a post one to the Europa List and I w
as concerned that we had been removed.
Best Regards,
Bud and Anita
N12AY
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
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Subject: | Re: Great time at Sun 'n Fun |
Hey Bud, Glad Sun & Fun went well, I=99m still in paradise, still snow
in Mn so planning my return for early May, how=99s the annual & fix i
t project coming, I=99ll keep u posted when I plan to return to Florid
a. Thanks, Brian.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 04:40, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
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> Well the Custom Flight Creations Sun =98n Fun was a better homecomin
g than I thought initially. We had more Europa owners and visitors than I t
hought considering there was a vicious front well to the North. Weather was
good except for Tuesday in the morning. A quick recovery and we were off a
nd running getting plenty of sun.
>
> Many owners and visitors stopped in, and we had some great contacts, and g
reat weather. Sorry I didn=99t get any photos but I have a mental con
dition preventing me from remembering to do photo=99s. But I did get a
great farmers tan (lower arm and legs and face, and the rest burnt).
>
> I see that after a week there was not a post one to the Europa List and I w
as concerned that we had been removed.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bud and Anita
> N12AY
> Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Subject: | Re: Outrigger Pivot Bearing Mod (10661 v2) (UK) |
Hi Dave,
I had the same issue as you last year, about May time. I've looked who I ended
up buying it from but I can't find the invoice or anything in my email nor browser
history, which is strange.
But if memory serves they were in southern England somewhere.
Anyway I had about 1m sent. I may have some left. Let me check in the morning and
I'll let you know. You could have a length of that; but I'm in Germany, so
shipping might not be the cheapest. I'll look into that also.
Best
Jon
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Subject: | Help with Inner Tube |
Hi All,
I've got the 7.00-6 (Aircraftspruce #06-09600) on my Europa Classic. I'd like to
change it as there are some radial cracks appearing in the tyre wall.
Being prudent I want to change the inner tube at the same time. So I ordered the
replacement from Aircraftspruce.eu with the 06-09800 7.00-6 inner tube. Which
is also mentioned in this forum as an acceptable tube
The issue I've hit is that the tube as supplied by Aircraftspruce has a straight
valve, not a 90deg valve. The tube that is currently installed on the aircaft,
from the previous owner, isn't a McCreary one. It says made in Taiwan with
no other information.
Can anyone suggest a suitable inner tube and source for it?
Thanks
Jon
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Subject: | Re: Great time at Sun 'n Fun |
Budby any chance, did the folks from Bruce=99s Aircraft
Covers come by your booth? After ordering a cover for my Europa, I had
asked if they had any of their aluminum coated reflector heat shields
which would fit the Europathey said nothat they lacked
a pattern. I alerted them that you would be at Sun N Fun and gave them
your booth #, hoping they would stop by and make patterns for those
shields.
Again, sorry I could not make the show,
Fred
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 7:40 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
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> Well the Custom Flight Creations Sun =98n Fun was a better
homecoming than I thought initially. We had more Europa owners and
visitors than I thought considering there was a vicious front well to
the North. Weather was good except for Tuesday in the morning. A quick
recovery and we were off and running getting plenty of sun.
>
> Many owners and visitors stopped in, and we had some great contacts,
and great weather. Sorry I didn=99t get any photos but I have a
mental condition preventing me from remembering to do photo=99s.
But I did get a great farmers tan (lower arm and legs and face, and the
rest burnt).
>
> I see that after a week there was not a post one to the Europa List
and I was concerned that we had been removed.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bud and Anita
> N12AY
> Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10
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Subject: | Re: Europa fuel sender mod |
Roget that,
however I already have a hole in the top of my tank so I need to put
something in it.
Knowing what I know now I wouldn't have bothered with a fuel sender - the
sight gauge is perfectly adequate for me.
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:16 PM Europa48 <corinthian@me.com> wrote:
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>
> http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/Standard%20Mods/247
_Europa%20SM12209%20Fuel%20Flow.pdf
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> MGL do a transducer for =C2=A3110
>
> Regards
>
> David
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Subject: | Re: Help with Inner Tube |
Hi Jon,
I got mine at Wicks Aircraft. I just checked the link and they seem to
be currently out of stock but at least there is a manufacturer name and
part number.
http://aircraftproducts.wicksaircraft.com/item/6-aircraft-wheel/carlisle-tire-tube-3/tb-mtat8x6?&plpver=10&origin=keyword&by=prod&filter=0
Regards,
Martin Tuck
On 4/13/2019 3:09 PM, italianjon wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
> I've got the 7.00-6 (Aircraftspruce #06-09600) on my Europa Classic. I'd like
to change it as there are some radial cracks appearing in the tyre wall.
>
> Being prudent I want to change the inner tube at the same time. So I ordered
the replacement from Aircraftspruce.eu with the 06-09800 7.00-6 inner tube. Which
is also mentioned in this forum as an acceptable tube
>
> The issue I've hit is that the tube as supplied by Aircraftspruce has a straight
valve, not a 90deg valve. The tube that is currently installed on the aircaft,
from the previous owner, isn't a McCreary one. It says made in Taiwan with
no other information.
>
> Can anyone suggest a suitable inner tube and source for it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488718#488718
>
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Subject: | Re: Outrigger Pivot Bearing Mod (10661 v2) (UK) |
You could try looking at metal recycle facilities or fab shops doing instrumentation.
They toss the small lengths of 316 SS tubing left over in the bin normally.
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Subject: | Re: Help with Inner Tube |
Thanks Martin, this is a good start and moves me forward, with a part number and
manufacturer.
I have to admit wheel tyre/tube combinations are a mystery to me and I don't fully
understand them.
The link you sent me is for a 6.00-6 tube. I have read elsewhere that you can undersize
the tubes, but I can't find any clear guidance on how/when/where you
can do this.
I'm wondering if I could get a 6.00-6 or a 7.00-6 tube with a bend. After I posted last night, I continued searching for a while and came across these guys (http://wattsaviation.co.uk/) : I might call them on Monday.
Best wishes
Jon
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