Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 04/20/19


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:01 PM - Re: Europa covers for outside and touring (Christoph Both)
     2. 12:08 PM - Re: Re: Europa covers for outside and touring (Fred Klein)
     3. 03:00 PM - Re: Europa Accident (Roland)
     4. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Europa Accident (Pete)
     5. 04:48 PM - Re: Europa Accident (h&jeuropa)
 
 
 


Message 1


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    Time: 12:01:55 PM PST US
    From: Christoph Both <christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
    Subject: Re: Europa covers for outside and touring
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    Time: 12:08:36 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Europa covers for outside and touring
    > On Apr 19, 2019, at 12:36 AM, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote: > <mailto:graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>> > > I made a pattern with brown paper, brought some fabric from IKEA, cut out the strips and pinned them and then got the Mrs to 'run them up' and sew on some webbing. Not waterproof but keeps the hangar dust and spider droppings out and sun and people when parked somewhere for the day. Still have the paper pattern. > 'Cheap skate' maybe. Graemekudos for your success with an economical solution to this issue. I too consider myself a frugal guy, and had always in my mind to stitch up something myself. But as I found so many last minute things to dothe closer I came to making one, the more concerned I became about durability, waterproof=99g, and potential abrasion of the plexiglass (i.e., perspec)and ultimately decided that after investing so much effort and $ in the aircraft I could justify the additional expense of buying one, particularly since my hangaring situation is uncertain.


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    Time: 03:00:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Accident
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Hello Rick, I'm sorry to hear about your accident and also wish you a speedy recovery from your injuries. I find it frightening, that the occupants get trapped in the cockpit when the Europa flips over. In one of the last issues of the Europa Flyer there was also a report of a forced landing of a Europa Trigear with subsequent flip over after an engine failure and the pilot also at least had his difficulties with escaping the cockpit. I assume it's a similar problem with all low wing aircraft, the Europa maybe even slightly better with the gull-wing doors compared to a one piece canopy. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488829#488829


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    Time: 04:40:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Accident
    From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    I also offer my best wishes for a speedy recovery, and condolences on your plane. Wrt to in ted egress, i was planning on making the hinge pins removable with the pull of a handle (on cables). I have the same feature on my lil hummelbird to be able to bail. Regards, Pete A239 > On Apr 20, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote: > > > Hello Rick, > > I'm sorry to hear about your accident and also wish you a speedy recovery from your injuries. > > I find it frightening, that the occupants get trapped in the cockpit when the Europa flips over. In one of the last issues of the Europa Flyer there was also a report of a forced landing of a Europa Trigear with subsequent flip over after an engine failure and the pilot also at least had his difficulties with escaping the cockpit. I assume it's a similar problem with all low wing aircraft, the Europa maybe even slightly better with the gull-wing doors compared to a one piece canopy. > > Regards > Roland > PH-ZTI > XS TG 914 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488829#488829 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:48:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Accident
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    I talked to Rick Friday evening. He is home and recovering from cracked vertebra and rib and burns from leaking fuel. He expects to be back at work in a few weeks. He commented that the rescue crew was concerned that they didnt know where the battery was located to disconnect it. It might be a good idea to placard that on our airplanes. They also had difficulty getting him out and wouldnt use their electrically powered saws because of the fuel leak. Instead they used hammers and axes to cut open the fuselage. He related that the seat belt webbing broke which was a good thing since it allowed his body to lay across the center console and into the passenger seat avoiding being crushed. Jim Butcher Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488832#488832




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