---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/21/19: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:10 AM - Mono for sale 0 hours (graeme bird) 2. 02:17 AM - Club AGM/Fly In Friday (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 3. 03:29 AM - Frequencies and 8.33 Channel numbers (JonathanMilbank) 4. 09:10 PM - Re: New Europa Tri-Gear owner, looking for trailer (Tazmool) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:45 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Mono for sale 0 hours From: "graeme bird" I have put my second kit completion on AFORs.com for sale (Donald Kestertons build that I am finishing off). -------- Graeme Bird Kit 2 in build, Mono Classic 912; Kit 1 G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, Smart A3 380 hours, 980t g(@)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490462#490462 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:57 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Europa-List: Club AGM/Fly In Friday For those planning to attend the AGM/ Fly in on Friday, here are a few points about the airfield: Distance to hotel: I am afraid it is nearer 2 miles than the advertised 1/2mile so the quick witted amongst you might like to look out for those dropping into the airfield for lunch by car, and it would be good if those there with a car will look out for pilots needing a lift. Otherwise a friendly local taxi service is available on 07771 622970 PPR: The airfield requires PPR. Please either ring them or email: tower@wellesbourneairfield.com with reg, type and rough ETA Airfield Charges: Landing fee 12. Overnight parking 10, but combined 'Package deal' for us 20. Fuel available at highly competitive price of 1.50 +VAT. Weather currently predicted looks reasonable. Hope to see you all there. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:40 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Frequencies and 8.33 Channel numbers From: "JonathanMilbank" Our airfield has just been assigned its own frequency 118.275 MHz, with associated 8.33 Khz channel number 118.280. Club members queried the numerical difference, so herewith a short list of VHF radio frequencies and their corresponding channel numbers. This was created by way of explaining why Longside airfield has been assigned Channel 118.280, yet will operate on frequency 118.275 MHz. The old 25 KHz separated frequencies are shown in bold and it should be appreciated that while a new 8.33 KHz aircraft radio is capable of operating on the old frequencies, when in 8.33 mode the bandwidth of those oldfrequencies has been narrowed to enable two new 8.33 frequencies to be inserted betweeneach pair ofold ones. There is a penalty for narrow bandwidth, which is that speech quality is a bit poorer. If someone were to transmit using the old 25 KHz frequencies, communication would still work but the wider bandwidth would spill over and interfere on adjacent 8.33 KHz channels. To discriminate between the old 25 KHz frequencies and their corresponding new 8.33 channel numbers, radio manufacturers have added a '5' or a '0' in the third decimal position on the aircraft radio display. This is why, as an example, it is possible to mistakenly select channel 134.105 and yet still be able to communicate with Aberdeen Offshore which continues to operate on frequency 134.1 MHz. The result is a slight "mismatch" with poorer comms for both parties, which someone more knowledgeable would be able to explain. So when ATC gives you an instruction to change to Radar 119.055, you probably won't hear the word 'frequency' mentioned. On the other hand it would be correct to say "Change to frequency 134.1" because that isn't an 8.33 channel number. But in practice nobody's likely to be shot down in flames for misusing such terminology. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490464#490464 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/frequency_and_channel_115.pdf ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:24 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: New Europa Tri-Gear owner, looking for trailer From: "Tazmool" A very good guess, I had considered Peter's Europa, and it did come with a trailer! (that would have been a big plus) I spoke with him last year during my Europa search. The monowheel was perhaps a bit too challenging for my low hour, low experience hands, so when my Tri-Gear came up, I jumped at the chance. The plane I did end up getting was not posted up for sale (and I'm not sure if the seller wishes their name posted) but he is one great guy, and I'm hoping to enjoy his built Europa for years to come. I did just get current on a DA20 (as it was recommended by other Europa owners, vs getting current in the trusty 172) and I'm still practicing in the DA20 while getting my Europa ready. Tazmool Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490473#490473 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.