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1. 01:42 AM - Re: Full control deflection (Alan Twigg)
2. 08:57 AM - throttle pivot sifffnut won't stay in place (Rowland Carson)
3. 11:48 AM - Re: throttle pivot sifffnut won't stay in place (Kelvin Weston)
4. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: throttle pivot sifffnut won't stay in place (William Daniell)
5. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: throttle pivot sifffnut won't stay in place (Rowland Carson)
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| Subject: | Re: Full control deflection |
Thanks Pete, I did see some miniature actuators several years ago that one Europaphile
was intending to use but heard no more.
Alan Twigg
Sent from my iPhone
> On 16 Sep 2019, at 11:26, Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
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> Hi Alan,
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> Erichs custom outriggers fold up sideways into custom classic-foam wing carved
out rebates. Not applicable to the carbon prepreg glider wings.
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> Cheers,
> Pete
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>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:47 AM, Alan Twigg <alan.twigg775@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> As I have a motor glider variant, I am most interested in electric outrigger
details.
>> Alan Twigg
>> Kit 463, complete but struggling with control deflections.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 15 Sep 2019, at 19:04, Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
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>>> Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.
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>>>> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Willless flaps you saya happy option for the trip-gearIm wondering if there
are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG?
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>>>> Fred
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>>>> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificateyay !!
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
wrote:
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>>>>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.
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>>>>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway. 04FA Richards
field is surrounded by trees.
>>>>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first
time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection
with the stick hard against my left knee. I have never even come close before.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps
>>>>>
>>>>> Will
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> William Daniell
>>>>> +1 786 878 0246
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| Subject: | throttle pivot sifffnut won't stay in place |
Some time ago Id assembled my throttle box with a temporary plain nut on the lever
pivot to get things lined up and working. Ive now got to the stage where I
think its safe to fit the stiffnut (MS21042-4) on the pivot setscrew (EURO23).
However, having done that and tightened it up so that the throttle lever does
not slide up to full-throttle under the influence of the carb springs, as soon
as I move the lever over its travel once or twice, the stiffnut starts to turn
with the washers on that side of the lever and slackens off.
I thought perhaps the plastic washer isnt slippery enough, so plan B, I loosened
everything off enough to spread some grease on all faces of both plastic washers
and tightened it up again. No improvement, the stiffnut still slackened off
almost immediately.
Plan C was to fit a check-nut between the stiffnut and the washer and lock them
together. Alas, no matter how hard I tried to jam those 2 nuts together, they
slackened off in just the same way as before.
Now Ive pretty much run out of ideas - can anyone help or suggest the blindingly
obvious solution that Im missing?
{The engineering solution would be to have a keyway on the setscrew and tabs on
both the big metal washers to engage the keyway, this ensuring that no rotational
movement gets transmitted to the stiffnut or the screw . . . but that calls
for special parts that might be expensive!}
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: throttle pivot sifffnut won't stay in place |
Hi Rowland
Pictures attached.
I glued the bolt into the throttle housing and made a couple of triangular plates
that fitted snug into the bottom of the housing. The shape stops the plates
rotating.
This stops any rotation of the bolt and no rotation is transmitted to the nut.
The lever rotates between plastic washers, two either side of the lever.
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Regards
Kelv Weston
Kit 497
kelv@kdweston.biz
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| Subject: | Re: throttle pivot sifffnut won't stay in place |
[image: WDaniell throttle lever.jpg]
William Daniell
LONGPORT
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:51 PM Kelvin Weston <kelv@kdweston.biz> wrote:
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> Hi Rowland
>
> Pictures attached.
> I glued the bolt into the throttle housing and made a couple of triangular
> plates that fitted snug into the bottom of the housing. The shape stops
> the plates rotating.
> This stops any rotation of the bolt and no rotation is transmitted to the
> nut. The lever rotates between plastic washers, two either side of the
> lever.
>
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> Regards
>
> Kelv Weston
> Kit 497
> kelv@kdweston.biz
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491333#491333
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/throttle_box_2_107.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: throttle pivot sifffnut won't stay in place |
On 2019-09-17, at 19:47, Kelvin Weston <kelv@kdweston.biz> wrote:
> I glued the bolt into the throttle housing and made a couple of triangular plates
that fitted snug into the bottom of the housing. The shape stops the plates
rotating.
> This stops any rotation of the bolt and no rotation is transmitted to the nut.
The lever rotates between plastic washers, two either side of the lever.
Kelvin - thanks, that sounds easy to do and quite obvious once you think of it!
Thanks also to William - your approach is substantial and clearly effective,
but I think involves too much re-work for me!
in friendship
Rowland
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