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1. 03:02 AM - Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 (flyingphil2)
2. 05:00 AM - Re: Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 (William Daniell)
3. 05:51 AM - Re: Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 (D McFadyean)
4. 12:31 PM - Re: Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 (Graham Singleton)
5. 03:34 PM - Re: Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 (Rowland Carson)
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| Subject: | Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 |
Hello everyone,
After a few years playing with another type of 'Euro' aircraft, I'm now helping
someone with their Tri-Gear kit.
I'm doing an inventory and of course have got a load of out of date Ampreg 20 and
Redux 420. The Ampreg 20 expired in 2002 and the Redux 420 in 2003.
I'm sure this is all destined for the bin but 'Europa folklore' suggests that the
Ampreg could be used for surface filling of the control surfaces. Is this
true? Will it still go off and can it still be used for non structural purposes?
I note it's the '20' and so understand that for H&S reasons we may want to
use 21 instead.
If all this is fit for disposal, where can I do that in the UK? Will council recycling
centres take it?
Thanks,
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 |
My advice is not dispose of it. While it might not be airworthy it is an
amazing adhesive. I stuck a handle back on a collender with redux which
had been open at least 5 years thinking that it would last a couple of
weeks what with cycles of the dishwasher etc. That was 5 years ago and it
shows no sign of softening or loosening its grip.
As for epoxy i believe that all epoxies are basically similar. Anyway i
used local colombian epoxy designed for insulating transformers to fill my
control surfaces. The owner chemist of the company told me that if it
cures itll be fine for that purpose.
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 06:04 flyingphil2 <philipjtiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> After a few years playing with another type of 'Euro' aircraft, I'm now
> helping someone with their Tri-Gear kit.
> I'm doing an inventory and of course have got a load of out of date Ampreg
> 20 and Redux 420. The Ampreg 20 expired in 2002 and the Redux 420 in 2003.
>
> I'm sure this is all destined for the bin but 'Europa folklore' suggests
> that the Ampreg could be used for surface filling of the control surfaces.
> Is this true? Will it still go off and can it still be used for non
> structural purposes? I note it's the '20' and so understand that for H&S
> reasons we may want to use 21 instead.
>
> If all this is fit for disposal, where can I do that in the UK? Will
> council recycling centres take it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491641#491641
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 |
If there are crystals in the hardner (which can be too fine to see easily), these
will tend to be the source of paint defects where located immediately under
the paint film in any filler made with this old epoxy.
It might be possible to redissolve these crystals back in to the hardner prior
to use, by means of gentle heating.
Duncan McF.
> On 06 October 2019 at 11:02 flyingphil2 <philipjtiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> After a few years playing with another type of 'Euro' aircraft, I'm now helping
someone with their Tri-Gear kit.
> I'm doing an inventory and of course have got a load of out of date Ampreg 20
and Redux 420. The Ampreg 20 expired in 2002 and the Redux 420 in 2003.
>
> I'm sure this is all destined for the bin but 'Europa folklore' suggests that
the Ampreg could be used for surface filling of the control surfaces. Is this
true? Will it still go off and can it still be used for non structural purposes?
I note it's the '20' and so understand that for H&S reasons we may want
to use 21 instead.
>
> If all this is fit for disposal, where can I do that in the UK? Will council
recycling centres take it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491641#491641
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 |
Use the Ampreg for filling, but mix some colloidal silica with it. That way you
can add 30% more filler and it will still spread.
Use the Redux to mend things in the house; or non structural stuff in the airplane.
Graham
> On 6 Oct 2019, at 11:02, flyingphil2 <philipjtiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> After a few years playing with another type of 'Euro' aircraft, I'm now helping
someone with their Tri-Gear kit.
> I'm doing an inventory and of course have got a load of out of date Ampreg 20
and Redux 420. The Ampreg 20 expired in 2002 and the Redux 420 in 2003.
>
> I'm sure this is all destined for the bin but 'Europa folklore' suggests that
the Ampreg could be used for surface filling of the control surfaces. Is this
true? Will it still go off and can it still be used for non structural purposes?
I note it's the '20' and so understand that for H&S reasons we may want
to use 21 instead.
>
> If all this is fit for disposal, where can I do that in the UK? Will council
recycling centres take it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491641#491641
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Old Ampreg 20 & Redux 420 |
On 2019-10-06, at 11:02, flyingphil2 <philipjtiller@gmail.com> wrote:
> After a few years playing with another type of 'Euro' aircraft, I'm now helping
someone with their Tri-Gear kit.
> I'm doing an inventory and of course have got a load of out of date Ampreg 20
and Redux 420. The Ampreg 20 expired in 2002 and the Redux 420 in 2003.
Phil - if you dont want it, Ill take it all off your hands. Continue with messages
direct to me <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> if you want to proceed. Im in Gloucestershire.
in friendship
Rowland
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