---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/10/19: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:14 AM - Re: Trim through a Dynon AP-74 panel (Roland) 2. 02:23 AM - Re: best radio and transponder emplacement (Roland) 3. 05:43 AM - Re: best radio and transponder emplacement (Bud Yerly) 4. 06:02 AM - Re: best radio and transponder emplacement (Peter Zutrauen) 5. 07:27 AM - Re: best radio and transponder emplacement (Bud Yerly) 6. 08:43 AM - Re: Help needed understanding uncoordinated flight (Jan de Jong) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:32 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Trim through a Dynon AP-74 panel From: "Roland" I had a trim runaway in my Europa which was merely due to a stuck trim switch. Since this panel mounted rocker switch (from Aircraft Spruce IIRC) didn't have a distinct "click" while operating it in the different directions, this was barely noticeable. The solution at that moment was just to tip the opposite direction to stop it from running. I'd recommend, just to make sure, before taking everything apart.... Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491726#491726 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:23:35 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: best radio and transponder emplacement From: "Roland" I have the Trig Transponder box mounted in the tunnel, located right between the seats. This works flawlessly. However this probably only works in the Trigear, where you have a lot of spare room due to the lack of the retracted wheel in the Mono. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491727#491727 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:49 AM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: best radio and transponder emplacement Pete, We mounted Creighton Smith=92s in the panel on the curved side and used the existing coax. Less wiring changes. Works fine. Don=92t ask about the ADS-B upgrade. You have to go back to the 90=92s for the CPU flash program for an OKI Data flash program and it is reluctant to work on the latest Windows/mac systems. It took 3 hours to get the upgrad e to take. Everyone fears the blank screen. That=92s my only complaint ab out Trig. Otherwise a great piece of equipment. Bud Yerly Sent from Mail for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Peter Zutrauen Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:21:55 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: best radio and transponder emplacement I would suggest as close to the antennas as possible. I have done that in my Hummelbird (no other place was physically possible), and they work absol utely fantastic - love them. cheers, Pete On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 12:12 PM diamond > wrote: .fr>> Hello, I ordered a trig ty 91 radio and a tt22 transponder to modernize my plane, and I=92 m wondering what is the most suitable location to install t he boxes, behind the dashboard, on in the rear compartment ? Emmanuel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491705#491705 pa-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?Europa-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:18 AM PST US From: Peter Zutrauen Subject: Re: Europa-List: best radio and transponder emplacement Hi Bud, I was throwing my opinion in on the box location (I have them in my HB :-) LOL about the software update.... I lost 1 month on my HB because my local trig dealer couldnt update my transponder for adsb and had to send it to Kansas anyway (guess he's not the only one). Kansas has it sorted - quick turn around :-) I am very happy that Trig has committed to add a widget between the box and the antenna (simple splitter?) to accomodate Canada's space-based ADSB and still be USA compliant, without replacing any hardware. I love Trig. Bullet proof kit, even in my torture-testing HummelBird. Cheers, Pete On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:53 AM Bud Yerly wrote: > Pete, > > We mounted Creighton Smith=99s in the panel on the curved side and used the > existing coax. Less wiring changes. > > Works fine. > > > Don=99t ask about the ADS-B upgrade. You have to go back to the 90 =99s for > the CPU flash program for an OKI Data flash program and it is reluctant t o > work on the latest Windows/mac systems. It took 3 hours to get the upgra de > to take. Everyone fears the blank screen. That=99s my only compla int about > Trig. Otherwise a great piece of equipment. > > > Bud Yerly > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com < > owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Peter Zutrauen < > peterz@zutrasoft.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:21:55 PM > *To:* europa-list > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: best radio and transponder emplacement > > I would suggest as close to the antennas as possible. I have done that i n > my Hummelbird (no other place was physically possible), and they work > absolutely fantastic - love them. > > cheers, > Pete > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 12:12 PM diamond wrote: > >> >> Hello, I ordered a trig ty 91 radio and a tt22 transponder to modernize >> my plane, and I=99 m wondering what is the most suitable location to install >> the boxes, behind the dashboard, on in the rear compartment ? >> Emmanuel >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491705#491705 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> pa-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >> ========== >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:34 AM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: Re: Europa-List: best radio and transponder emplacement Yep, If my son wasn't a programmer, I would have sent it to Trig also. My obser vation was he got the update to take by completely wiping while, disconnect ed, then flashing the chip, and only then would it accept the upgrade. I gave up after a couple hours, he got it done in an hour. Good equipment, and I agree the ADS-B hardware was very reasonable. Best Regards, Bud Yerly Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Peter Zutrauen Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:00:20 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: best radio and transponder emplacement Hi Bud, I was throwing my opinion in on the box location (I have them in my HB :-) LOL about the software update.... I lost 1 month on my HB because my local trig dealer couldnt update my transponder for adsb and had to send it to K ansas anyway (guess he's not the only one). Kansas has it sorted - quick turn around :-) I am very happy that Trig has committed to add a widget between the box and the antenna (simple splitter?) to accomodate Canada's space-based ADSB and still be USA compliant, without replacing any hardware. I love Trig. Bull et proof kit, even in my torture-testing HummelBird. Cheers, Pete On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:53 AM Bud Yerly > wrote: Pete, We mounted Creighton Smith=92s in the panel on the curved side and used the existing coax. Less wiring changes. Works fine. Don=92t ask about the ADS-B upgrade. You have to go back to the 90=92s for the CPU flash program for an OKI Data flash program and it is reluctant to work on the latest Windows/mac systems. It took 3 hours to get the upgrad e to take. Everyone fears the blank screen. That=92s my only complaint ab out Trig. Otherwise a great piece of equipment. Bud Yerly Sent from Mail for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > on behalf of Peter Zutrauen > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:21:55 PM >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: best radio and transponder emplacement I would suggest as close to the antennas as possible. I have done that in my Hummelbird (no other place was physically possible), and they work absol utely fantastic - love them. cheers, Pete On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 12:12 PM diamond > wrote: .fr>> Hello, I ordered a trig ty 91 radio and a tt22 transponder to modernize my plane, and I=92 m wondering what is the most suitable location to install t he boxes, behind the dashboard, on in the rear compartment ? Emmanuel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491705#491705 pa-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?Europa-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Help needed understanding uncoordinated flight From: Jan de Jong Resending (disappeared yesterday). Hi Ron, my 2 cents. In turning descent or level flight the inside wing will stall first. I remind myself of: 1. top rudder, in order to lead with the inside wing - slip, not skid 2. apply progressively, not suddenly - do not yank a wing back I understand that in a turning climb the outside wing may stall first though. The fuselage decreases the airflow over the inner part of the wing that is pulled back, decreasing lift of that wing, compensated with aileron. I don't think there is fuselage lift involved in explaining anything. 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