---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/28/19: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:57 AM - Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator (Alfred Buess) 2. 10:54 AM - Rain ingress (graeme bird) 3. 12:50 PM - Re: Rain ingress (Bob Harrison) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:57:52 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator From: "Alfred Buess" Hi James Yes I have a colored LED display in the cockpit: one LED red, one amber, three green. See attached picture. The vane is mounted on the inspection cover forward of the outrigger attachment (outer flap hinge). I have the classic foam wing with a tube inside, in which the wires are routed. Alternatively you can install the wires in the flap close-out with a short tube between the aileron bellcrank access hole and the flap close-out. Regard, Alfred Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492018#492018 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/101_0115_716.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:41 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Rain ingress From: "graeme bird" I had my Europa project on the drive a couple of days while weighing and plugging it all together and waggling the surfaces and after a couple of downpours was alarmed to see so much water coming in; the passenger tray was turning into bird bath, presumably because South co fasteners have been used on the cowl and these won't seal like screws and rain from the windscreen will run through them. The other source seems to be either the hinges or the top rubber door seals with water running along the inside of the top of the central roof cover panel and dripping on to the baggage bay floor. I've not noticed this on G-UMPY at all, but then again its rare that its left in heavy rain. Ive always assumed its fairly water proof. I wonder whether I could add some clear silicon along the top edge of the door seal profile or what others have done (apart from use a cambric cover). -------- Graeme Bird Kit 2 in build, Mono Classic 912; Kit 1 G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, Smart A3 380 hours, 980t g(@)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492019#492019 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:28 PM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rain ingress Hi! Graeme Bird/Martin Coffin/ all When I built G-PTAG I anticipated this issue and used no vertical screws on the firewall area. But I used 4 number taper pins made from redundant door tapers and sockets appropriately fiberglassed under the upper cowl to engage on the taper pins. Whilst the vertical sides of the lower cowl were countersunk philips screws into rivenuts AND a regular COATING OF the threads with Hilomar keeps water out or to a minimum. The rest of the cowl horizontal connectors were Southco where water egress doesn't matter. However the door tops were always a problem in a downpour resulting in the floor getting flooded but appropriate positioned 1/8" drain holes took care of that! When left out in rain I always taped up the draught vents and in particular similarly taped completely over the fuel filler and locks. You do need to remove the ALL THE tape before flight though or you will steam up before you take off !!!!. Of course G-PTAG was a trike therefore stood on the ground horizontal so a mono will be bound to flood over the door rubbers into the baggage bay so you would probably need to use a pipe from the door rebate at the aft side of the door slot or perhaps two .....one either side. Incidentally for simplicity of fitting all horizontal screws including Southco were spade/chisel screw driver and vertical screws were the Phillips driven. ( hope you are noting this Martin Coffin !?) Regards to ALL Bob Harrison. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird Sent: 28 October 2019 17:54 Subject: Europa-List: Rain ingress I had my Europa project on the drive a couple of days while weighing and plugging it all together and waggling the surfaces and after a couple of downpours was alarmed to see so much water coming in; the passenger tray was turning into bird bath, presumably because South co fasteners have been used on the cowl and these won't seal like screws and rain from the windscreen will run through them. The other source seems to be either the hinges or the top rubber door seals with water running along the inside of the top of the central roof cover panel and dripping on to the baggage bay floor. I've not noticed this on G-UMPY at all, but then again its rare that its left in heavy rain. Ive always assumed its fairly water proof. I wonder whether I could add some clear silicon along the top edge of the door seal profile or what others have done (apart from use a cambric cover). -------- Graeme Bird Kit 2 in build, Mono Classic 912; Kit 1 G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, Smart A3 380 hours, 980t g(@)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492019#492019 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.