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Thu 10/31/19


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     1. 01:28 AM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Don=99t?= mute the SmartASS3. Try option 6 (Hitchflight)
     2. 02:25 AM - Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator (clivesutton)
     3. 02:29 AM - Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator (zwakie)
     4. 02:55 AM - Re: Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator (Gaham Singleton)
     5. 03:29 AM - Re: Parachute (Roland)
     6. 03:34 AM - Re: Gas Struts (Fokkerjockey)
     7. 03:48 AM - Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator (zwakie)
     8. 04:03 AM - Re: Re: Parachute (Peter Zutrauen)
     9. 04:41 AM - Re: Oil Catch Can for 914 (Robert Borger)
    10. 10:50 AM - Re: Oil Catch Can for 914 (rparigoris)
    11. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914 (Bill)
    12. 12:26 PM - Re: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914 (Bob Harrison)
    13. 01:30 PM - Re: Re: Parachute (Bob Harrison)
    14. 02:05 PM - Re: Oil Catch Can for 914 (SPURPURA)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:28:11 AM PST US
    Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Don=99t?= mute the SmartASS3. Try option 6
    From: "Hitchflight" <bobhitchcock@icloud.com>
    Hi Rodger, Hi Alan Dont mute the SmartASS3. There is another way. I have a SmartASS3 fitted in my Europa Mono. Wonderful piece of kit. If you configure the device target speed and select option 6 then in normal conditions you will only occasionally hear the voice. For me it becomes a welcome cockpit companion, not an irritant. I would hear a warning voice if my gear was not down and locked. I do hear a comforting voice when I come over the hedge saying Slow and sometimes, very acceptably a Too slow just before I flare. I dont like the other extra speed announcements for I feel that I would subconsciously tend to ignore them. For my purposes I consciously selected the configurable option of switching off the continuous voice speed read out. For me, I only hear a voice when the speed is below my preset desired target speed. It is possible to suppress all of the speaking that you hear in airspeed and speed director modes except for when the speed is slow or very slow. To toggle the only speak when slow mode, press and hold the push switch until you have heard the sixth beep. It will say 6 enabled then only speak when slow mode is enabled or 6 disabled when the only speak when slow mode is disabled. In my opinion the inclusive undercarriage warning is essential for the Europa Monowheel. My proximity switch tells when the gear is a safely locked position, aided by an AUVRAY spring. I also have an electronic stall warning fitted. Trust that helps. Regards Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492049#492049


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    Time: 02:25:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator
    From: "clivesutton" <clive.maf@googlemail.com>
    Hi Alan, If it helps and in response to your earlier post:- "however how do pilots balance and indeed deselect those audio warning that are intrusive and distracting rather than life-saving" I have my Smartass3 (hardwired) and Skydemon on my iPad (Bluetooth to a USB receiver, then plug-wired), and the ability to inject music via a 3.5mm panel input socket from e.g. a smartphone, installed. All these external audio inputs are all wired to my TRIGTY91 - with the option to suppress them if someone on the radio chirps up, enabled - so i never get any conflict/incoming radio audio always takes priority. The same radio has the 'monitor' feature for a second channel - which i use judiciously and mostly in the cruise Clive S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492050#492050


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    Time: 02:29:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator
    From: "zwakie" <mz@cariama.nl>
    > Somehow the aoa beeping is easier to assimilate for me than smart ass voice which seems to be nagging!" There is an easy way to get the best of both "worlds": SmartASS allows you to replace the normal sound files, so what one could do: replace the standard voice annunciations with sound files containing beeps that similar to the AoA beeps. Additionally, if one would like to mute to "speed high" annunciations, simply replace those voice sound files with files that have no sound in them. -------- Marcel Zwakenberg Europa XS TG || 912ULS || PH-SBR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492051#492051


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    Time: 02:55:17 AM PST US
    From: Gaham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator
    I prefer AoA to airspeed as a primary information source. AoA tells you you will slow down whereas ASI tells you you have already slowed down. Stall is caused by critical AoA, which does not change with weight, or G load. Stall airspeed varies with weight and indicated airspeed lags AoA by at least 10 seconds. Graham. > On 31 Oct 2019, at 09:28, zwakie <mz@cariama.nl> wrote: > > > >> Somehow the aoa beeping is easier to assimilate for me than smart ass voice which seems to be nagging!" > > > There is an easy way to get the best of both "worlds": SmartASS allows you to replace the normal sound files, so what one could do: replace the standard voice annunciations with sound files containing beeps that similar to the AoA beeps. > > Additionally, if one would like to mute to "speed high" annunciations, simply replace those voice sound files with files that have no sound in them. > > -------- > Marcel Zwakenberg > Europa XS TG || 912ULS || PH-SBR > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492051#492051 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:29:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Parachute
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Hi James, the PH-GOO (Trigear XS) https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/PH-GOO has a BRS fitted, which - when deployed - is hooked to the engine frame and to two points of the wing spar on both sides of the cabin. However I wouldn't really trust the system as (I think) it has never been tested. Also the Cirrus CAPS has to be maintained in certain intervalls (line cutters replaced after 6 years, chute repacked etc.). In my Europa I wear automatically deployed (ripchord is connected to a hook behind the seats) emergency parachutes RFB-TC1http://www.buchsein.eu/?page_id=89 instead of seat cushions. They need to be repacked annually and they weight about 6 kg each. Price is about 2200 EUR each. Minimum height for full deployment is 80m AGL. I'm 1,82m tall and I fit in quite well (XS-version). I like the peace of mind to have this "last option" or "plan C" like I call it. Cheers Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492053#492053


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    Time: 03:34:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gas Struts
    From: "Fokkerjockey" <M.giudici@ntlworld.com>
    Hello Kingsley in Oz. I will be heading to WA fairly soon, and although I cannot tell you what the strut pressure is, I May be able to bring some with me! I tried to send an email based on your login but it bounced. Regards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492054#492054


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    Time: 03:48:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AW: AoA - Angle of Attack Indicator
    From: "zwakie" <mz@cariama.nl>
    grahamsingleton(at)btinte wrote: > I prefer AoA to airspeed as a primary information source. AoA tells you you will slow down whereas ASI tells you you have already slowed down. > Stall is caused by critical AoA, which does not change with weight, or G load. Stall airspeed varies with weight and indicated airspeed lags > AoA by at least 10 seconds. > Graham. I totally agree with you. My remark had to do with SmartASS's sounds only, how to replace voice with beeps... -------- Marcel Zwakenberg Europa XS TG || 912ULS || PH-SBR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492055#492055


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    Time: 04:03:14 AM PST US
    From: Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: Parachute
    FWIW, personal chutes are my preference as well.... and use a custom Butler brand in my HB, and plan on getting them to make custom packs for my Europa in a wedge shape for the dead lumbar space as to not lose any seating space. Butler does a fantastic job at custom packs, are reasonably priced, and have a patented slider to enable hi-speed deployment. Roland's static line is an intriguing idea..... Cheers, Pete C-GNPZ classic A239 pile of dual wing parts On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 5:36 AM Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote: > > Hi James, > > the PH-GOO (Trigear XS) https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/PH-GOO > has a BRS fitted, which - when deployed - is hooked to the engine frame and > to two points of the wing spar on both sides of the cabin. However I > wouldn't really trust the system as (I think) it has never been tested. > Also the Cirrus CAPS has to be maintained in certain intervalls (line > cutters replaced after 6 years, chute repacked etc.). > > In my Europa I wear automatically deployed (ripchord is connected to a > hook behind the seats) emergency parachutes RFB-TC1 > http://www.buchsein.eu/?page_id=89 instead of seat cushions. They need > to be repacked annually and they weight about 6 kg each. Price is about > 2200 EUR each. Minimum height for full deployment is 80m AGL. I'm 1,82m > tall and I fit in quite well (XS-version). I like the peace of mind to have > this "last option" or "plan C" like I call it. > > Cheers > Roland > PH-ZTI > XS TG 914 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492053#492053 > >


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    Time: 04:41:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Ron, Not sure what you mean by an oil catch can. But I doubt a 914 sure needs one. Mine doesnt. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (130 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop. (.75 hr) 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com > On Oct 31, 2019, at 1:40 AM, rparigoris <rparigor@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Group > > What's opinions if a XS Monowheel with 914 and Airmaster Prop needs an oil catch can? > > If the answer is yes, any pictures by chance or description of details? > Thx. Ron P. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492048#492048


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    Time: 10:50:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914
    From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@hotmail.com>
    Hi Bob I'm installing my oil tank. Here's what the manual says about venting the tank: The vent from the oil tank allows an oil mist to escape to atmosphere. It is not unusual to run the vent line to the bottom of the cowling, however if you do this, dont position the end of the tube such that i twill be in the airstream whilst flying. This could cause low pressure at the end of the tube to suck more oil from the tank than it should.Another consideration is that the oil mist will tend to coat the fuselage if left to vent freely. To avoid this you can run the vent line into a collector bottle before it goes to atmosphere; however, no bottle is provided. Europa is calling it a collector bottle. Ron P. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492061#492061


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    Time: 11:16:10 AM PST US
    From: "Bill" <europa10@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914
    Here's what I used. A little over 10 bucks on Ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Oil-Separator-Catch-Can-Reservoir-Tank-Breather-Filter-Baffled-PCV-Valve/153337954937 Bill N51EU Classic Monowheel -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rparigoris Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 1:49 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914 Hi Bob I'm installing my oil tank. Here's what the manual says about venting the tank: The vent from the oil tank allows an oil mist to escape to atmosphere. It is not unusual to run the vent line to the bottom of the cowling, however if you do this, dont position the end of the tube such that i twill be in the airstream whilst flying. This could cause low pressure at the end of the tube to suck more oil from the tank than it should.Another consideration is that the oil mist will tend to coat the fuselage if left to vent freely. To avoid this you can run the vent line into a collector bottle before it goes to atmosphere; however, no bottle is provided. Europa is calling it a collector bottle. Ron P. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492061#492061


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    Time: 12:26:15 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914
    Hi! All, I let the vent pipe 1/8th diameter exit into the aft of the lower cowl which never caused a problem on the 914 of G-PTAG as it only amounted to not much more than an occasional drop. I guess that fixing a mini pill bottle filled with wire wool may have collected the oil better but even that would be overkill ! Regards Bob Harrison . -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: 31 October 2019 18:15 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914 Here's what I used. A little over 10 bucks on Ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Oil-Separator-Catch-Can-Reservoir-Tank-Breather-Filter-Baffled-PCV-Valve/153337954937 Bill N51EU Classic Monowheel -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rparigoris Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 1:49 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914 Hi Bob I'm installing my oil tank. Here's what the manual says about venting the tank: The vent from the oil tank allows an oil mist to escape to atmosphere. It is not unusual to run the vent line to the bottom of the cowling, however if you do this, dont position the end of the tube such that i twill be in the airstream whilst flying. This could cause low pressure at the end of the tube to suck more oil from the tank than it should.Another consideration is that the oil mist will tend to coat the fuselage if left to vent freely. To avoid this you can run the vent line into a collector bottle before it goes to atmosphere; however, no bottle is provided. Europa is calling it a collector bottle. Ron P. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492061#492061 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com


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    Time: 01:30:56 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
    Subject: Re: Parachute
    Hi! Roland/all IMHO the deployment of a BRS type parachute at sufficient height is to wave "GOODBYE" TO many likely opportunities to save yourself and your aircraft during an unscheduled landing (except a water Landing )because once your aircraft was suspended at sufficient height you have no control of where you will hit " mother earth". Without a BRS chute the aircraft will still glide in the event of an engine out situation ( although on a pretty severe downward path ) during which time you will have had numerous attempts to re-start the engine and be able to select where is the best option to make your landing . Having said that I have never had such an incident other than in my mind by advance planning and practiced emergency dead stick approaches or emergency failures on take offs.( only ever land forward into that often planned place, do not attempt to return to the airfield you will NOT even make the perimeter. Now if you want to make provision for a catastrophic structural failure at height like William Mills ( bless him ) then the BRS chute would be useful other than would the BRS be able to be deployed at such airspeed and risks of even more disintegration. The magazine reporter ( also a "Mills") who designed the Europa BRS installation had planned on a temporary split down the wind screen for the aft suspension lines. ( how practical would that be ?) The whole scheme was abandoned . Regards Bob Harrison . -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roland Sent: 31 October 2019 10:29 Subject: Europa-List: Re: Parachute Hi James, the PH-GOO (Trigear XS) https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/PH-GOO has a BRS fitted, which - when deployed - is hooked to the engine frame and to two points of the wing spar on both sides of the cabin. However I wouldn't really trust the system as (I think) it has never been tested. Also the Cirrus CAPS has to be maintained in certain intervalls (line cutters replaced after 6 years, chute repacked etc.). In my Europa I wear automatically deployed (ripchord is connected to a hook behind the seats) emergency parachutes RFB-TC1http://www.buchsein.eu/?page_id=89 instead of seat cushions. They need to be repacked annually and they weight about 6 kg each. Price is about 2200 EUR each. Minimum height for full deployment is 80m AGL. I'm 1,82m tall and I fit in quite well (XS-version). I like the peace of mind to have this "last option" or "plan C" like I call it. Cheers Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492053#492053 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com


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    Time: 02:05:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Catch Can for 914
    From: "SPURPURA" <SPURPURA@aol.com>
    If youre losing enough oil to catch your probably overfilling the tank. When the tank is overfilled it will just blow out the excess. -------- N951EU - Tri-gear &amp; 912ULS, N77EU- Mono &amp; 914 I'D RATHER HAVE A BOTTLE IN FRONT OF ME THAN A FRONTAL LABOTAMY. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492071#492071




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