---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/10/20: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:07 AM - G-PLPM First Flight (Paul M 383) 2. 06:16 AM - Re: G-PLPM First Flight (Pete) 3. 07:40 AM - Re: G-PLPM First Flight (spcialeffects) 4. 08:26 AM - Re: G-PLPM First Flight (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 5. 08:44 AM - what hose for expansion tank to overflow bottle? (Rowland Carson) 6. 08:45 AM - Re: G-PLPM First Flight (Roland) 7. 09:01 AM - Re: what hose for expansion tank to overflow bottle? (Alan Burrill) 8. 09:30 AM - Re: G-PLPM First Flight (Olivier Hequet) 9. 09:37 AM - Re: what hose for expansion tank to overflow bottle? (Rowland Carson) 10. 11:39 AM - Re: G-PLPM First Flight (William Daniell) 11. 03:04 PM - Re: G-PLPM First Flight (SPURPURA) 12. 04:37 PM - Re: G-PLPM First Flight (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:39 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: G-PLPM First Flight From: "Paul M 383" On Thursday 6 Feb 2020 at 1545 UTC, Popham (EGHP) Runway 08 saw the first take off of Europa XS Mono G-PLPM, at the hands of her builder, Paul Mansfield. It was a textbook first flight: 25 mins airborne, 47 kt clean stall, 39 kt with flaps. A negligible roll to the right after about 20 seconds hands-off, and a slight left wing drop on configured stall. I have many many people to thank for their help, support and encouragement over the last 20 years(!), so please forgive me if I have left your name off this list; you know who you are: Jackie for all the inspiration, motivation and saying no to the sillier ideas I had along the way; Andy Draper for endless invaluable advice and tips; the late, great, Nev Eyre for all the tricks; Pete Jeffers for final inspection and David Joyce for his nagging to get finished and flying! Sexy Susie the Fibreglass Floozy Flies! Video from the second and third flights here: https://youtu.be/eIdkZkJAwSw Cheers, Paul M G-PLPM XS Mono Kit 383 Rotax 912ULS Woodcomp 3000N 1625mm 3 bladed prop Smart Avionics CSC-1 constant speed controller Dynon Skyview Funke ATR833 VHF com Trig TT21 transponder Garmin 695 GPS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494736#494736 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200206_145416_sm_718.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200207_110229_436.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20200207_wa0017_925.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200208_173133_sm_832.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/fr24_146.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:08 AM PST US From: Pete Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PLPM First Flight Gorgeous! Congrats! (Are you on the facebook group?) Cheers! Pete Z (In Canuckstan :) > On Feb 10, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Paul M 383 wrote: > > > On Thursday 6 Feb 2020 at 1545 UTC, Popham (EGHP) Runway 08 saw the first take off of Europa XS Mono G-PLPM, at the hands of her builder, Paul Mansfield. > > It was a textbook first flight: 25 mins airborne, 47 kt clean stall, 39 kt with flaps. A negligible roll to the right after about 20 seconds hands-off, and a slight left wing drop on configured stall. > > I have many many people to thank for their help, support and encouragement over the last 20 years(!), so please forgive me if I have left your name off this list; you know who you are: > > Jackie for all the inspiration, motivation and saying no to the sillier ideas I had along the way; Andy Draper for endless invaluable advice and tips; the late, great, Nev Eyre for all the tricks; Pete Jeffers for final inspection and David Joyce for his nagging to get finished and flying! > > Sexy Susie the Fibreglass Floozy Flies! > > Video from the second and third flights here: https://youtu.be/eIdkZkJAwSw > > Cheers, > > Paul M > > G-PLPM > XS Mono Kit 383 > Rotax 912ULS > Woodcomp 3000N 1625mm 3 bladed prop > Smart Avionics CSC-1 constant speed controller > Dynon Skyview > Funke ATR833 VHF com > Trig TT21 transponder > Garmin 695 GPS > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494736#494736 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200206_145416_sm_718.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200207_110229_436.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20200207_wa0017_925.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200208_173133_sm_832.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/fr24_146.jpg > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:51 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: G-PLPM First Flight From: "spcialeffects" Congratulations, lovely looking mono. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494738#494738 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:40 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PLPM First Flight Paul, Many congratulations. Looks great! David (Chief nagger!) GXSDJ On 2020-02-10 13:07, Paul M 383 wrote: > > On Thursday 6 Feb 2020 at 1545 UTC, Popham (EGHP) Runway 08 saw the first take off of Europa XS Mono G-PLPM, at the hands of her builder, Paul Mansfield. > > It was a textbook first flight: 25 mins airborne, 47 kt clean stall, 39 kt with flaps. A negligible roll to the right after about 20 seconds hands-off, and a slight left wing drop on configured stall. > > I have many many people to thank for their help, support and encouragement over the last 20 years(!), so please forgive me if I have left your name off this list; you know who you are: > > Jackie for all the inspiration, motivation and saying no to the sillier ideas I had along the way; Andy Draper for endless invaluable advice and tips; the late, great, Nev Eyre for all the tricks; Pete Jeffers for final inspection and David Joyce for his nagging to get finished and flying! > > Sexy Susie the Fibreglass Floozy Flies! > > Video from the second and third flights here: https://youtu.be/eIdkZkJAwSw > > Cheers, > > Paul M > > G-PLPM > XS Mono Kit 383 > Rotax 912ULS > Woodcomp 3000N 1625mm 3 bladed prop > Smart Avionics CSC-1 constant speed controller > Dynon Skyview > Funke ATR833 VHF com > Trig TT21 transponder > Garmin 695 GPS > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494736#494736 > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200206_145416_sm_718.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200207_110229_436.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20200207_wa0017_925.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200208_173133_sm_832.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/fr24_146.jpg > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:42 AM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: what hose for expansion tank to overflow bottle? I am not sure if there was a hose suppled with my Rotax 912S to connect between the expansion tank and the (Rotax-supplied) overflow bottle, nor can I find anything of that nature in my inventory of parts supplied by Europa Aircraft. Before I spend a lot of time looking for something which may be non-existent, can anyone confirm whether such a hose is supplied by Rotax with the engine, or if Europa supply it? Supplementary question - if I have to procure that hose, can anyone suggest a suitable type available in UK? The Rotax manual specifies: Hose connecting expansion tank to overflow bottle must be rated for vacuum/suction for min. 125 C (257 F). E.g. it must be strong enough to withstand high heat and suction during the cooling down period. WARNING: A soft walled hose is not suitable as it can collapse and cause coolant system failure. Size . . . of connections: expansion tank to overflow bottle outside dia. 8 mm (3/8). Any thoughts welcome! in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:07 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: G-PLPM First Flight From: "Roland" Congratulations, Paul! And what a beauty she is. Enjoy - and I hope to meet you on one of the upcoming Europa meet ups. Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494740#494740 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:17 AM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: what hose for expansion tank to overflow bottle? I have seen a lot of people use 6mm fuel hose which is in the kit but wonder ed if steam hose, silicon, would be suitable. https://www.hoseworld.com/6mm-i-d-silicone-rubber-tubing-sil-06-10.html Alan Burrill Sent from my iPad > On 10 Feb 2020, at 16:46, Rowland Carson wrote: > gmail.com> > > I am not sure if there was a hose suppled with my Rotax 912S to connect be tween the expansion tank and the (Rotax-supplied) overflow bottle, nor can I find anything of that nature in my inventory of parts supplied by Europa Ai rcraft. Before I spend a lot of time looking for something which may be non- existent, can anyone confirm whether such a hose is supplied by Rotax with t he engine, or if Europa supply it? > > Supplementary question - if I have to procure that hose, can anyone sugges t a suitable type available in UK? The Rotax manual specifies: > > Hose connecting expansion tank to overflow bottle must be rated for vacuum /suction for min. 125 =C2=B0C (257 =C2=B0F). E.g. it must be strong enough t o withstand high heat and suction during the cooling down period. WARNING: A soft walled hose is not suitable as it can collapse and cause coolant syste m failure. > Size . . . of connections: expansion tank to overflow bottle outside dia. 8 mm (3/8=9D). > > Any thoughts welcome! > > in friendship > > Rowland > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PLPM First Flight From: Olivier Hequet Congrats Paul...lots of beautiful flights now. Olivier F-PAKV Le 10/02/2020 14:07, Paul M 383 a crit: > > On Thursday 6 Feb 2020 at 1545 UTC, Popham (EGHP) Runway 08 saw the first take off of Europa XS Mono G-PLPM, at the hands of her builder, Paul Mansfield. > > It was a textbook first flight: 25 mins airborne, 47 kt clean stall, 39 kt with flaps. A negligible roll to the right after about 20 seconds hands-off, and a slight left wing drop on configured stall. > > I have many many people to thank for their help, support and encouragement over the last 20 years(!), so please forgive me if I have left your name off this list; you know who you are: > > Jackie for all the inspiration, motivation and saying no to the sillier ideas I had along the way; Andy Draper for endless invaluable advice and tips; the late, great, Nev Eyre for all the tricks; Pete Jeffers for final inspection and David Joyce for his nagging to get finished and flying! > > Sexy Susie the Fibreglass Floozy Flies! > > Video from the second and third flights here: https://youtu.be/eIdkZkJAwSw > > Cheers, > > Paul M > > G-PLPM > XS Mono Kit 383 > Rotax 912ULS > Woodcomp 3000N 1625mm 3 bladed prop > Smart Avionics CSC-1 constant speed controller > Dynon Skyview > Funke ATR833 VHF com > Trig TT21 transponder > Garmin 695 GPS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494736#494736 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200206_145416_sm_718.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200207_110229_436.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20200207_wa0017_925.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200208_173133_sm_832.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/fr24_146.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:41 AM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: what hose for expansion tank to overflow bottle? On 2020-02-10, at 16:59, Alan Burrill wrote: > I have seen a lot of people use 6mm fuel hose which is in the kit but wondered if steam hose, silicon, would be suitable. Alan - thanks for the suggestions. I had considered silicon tubing but discarded the idea as most of the examples Ive handled seem to collapse rather easily under vacuum. I imagine steam hose expects to have positive pressure inside all the time! I certainly have plenty of 6mm (and indeed 8mm) fuel hose lying around spare because I have used a combination of solid aluminium pipe and SS braided hose for my fuel system. Ill see how much of a push it takes to get the 6mm fuel hose onto the 8mm expansion tank outlet. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:23 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PLPM First Flight Congrats! Best feeling in the world William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 08:09 Paul M 383 wrote: > > On Thursday 6 Feb 2020 at 1545 UTC, Popham (EGHP) Runway 08 saw the first > take off of Europa XS Mono G-PLPM, at the hands of her builder, Paul > Mansfield. > > It was a textbook first flight: 25 mins airborne, 47 kt clean stall, 39 kt > with flaps. A negligible roll to the right after about 20 seconds > hands-off, and a slight left wing drop on configured stall. > > I have many many people to thank for their help, support and encouragement > over the last 20 years(!), so please forgive me if I have left your name > off this list; you know who you are: > > Jackie for all the inspiration, motivation and saying no to the sillier > ideas I had along the way; Andy Draper for endless invaluable advice and > tips; the late, great, Nev Eyre for all the tricks; Pete Jeffers for final > inspection and David Joyce for his nagging to get finished and flying! > > Sexy Susie the Fibreglass Floozy Flies! > > Video from the second and third flights here: https://youtu.be/eIdkZkJAwSw > > Cheers, > > Paul M > > G-PLPM > XS Mono Kit 383 > Rotax 912ULS > Woodcomp 3000N 1625mm 3 bladed prop > Smart Avionics CSC-1 constant speed controller > Dynon Skyview > Funke ATR833 VHF com > Trig TT21 transponder > Garmin 695 GPS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494736#494736 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200206_145416_sm_718.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200207_110229_436.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20200207_wa0017_925.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20200208_173133_sm_832.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/fr24_146.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:46 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: G-PLPM First Flight From: "SPURPURA" Beautiful aircraft. Youre in for lots of fun! -------- N951EU - Tri-gear & 912ULS, N77EU- Mono & 914 I'D RATHER HAVE A BOTTLE IN FRONT OF ME THAN A FRONTAL LABOTAMY. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494753#494753 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PLPM First Flight From: Robert Borger Paul, Congratulations on the first flight of your beautiful Europa. The fun has just begun! Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com > On Feb 10, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Paul M 383 wrote: > > > On Thursday 6 Feb 2020 at 1545 UTC, Popham (EGHP) Runway 08 saw the first take off of Europa XS Mono G-PLPM, at the hands of her builder, Paul Mansfield. > > It was a textbook first flight: 25 mins airborne, 47 kt clean stall, 39 kt with flaps. A negligible roll to the right after about 20 seconds hands-off, and a slight left wing drop on configured stall. > > I have many many people to thank for their help, support and encouragement over the last 20 years(!), so please forgive me if I have left your name off this list; you know who you are: > > Jackie for all the inspiration, motivation and saying no to the sillier ideas I had along the way; Andy Draper for endless invaluable advice and tips; the late, great, Nev Eyre for all the tricks; Pete Jeffers for final inspection and David Joyce for his nagging to get finished and flying! > > Sexy Susie the Fibreglass Floozy Flies! > > Video from the second and third flights here: https://youtu.be/eIdkZkJAwSw > > Cheers, > > Paul M > > G-PLPM > XS Mono Kit 383 > Rotax 912ULS > Woodcomp 3000N 1625mm 3 bladed prop > Smart Avionics CSC-1 constant speed controller > Dynon Skyview > Funke ATR833 VHF com > Trig TT21 transponder > Garmin 695 GPS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.