---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/09/20: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:54 PM - Europa Classic Wing and Fuse Filler. (Tony Renshaw) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:32 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: Europa Classic Wing and Fuse Filler. Hello all, I=99ve been furloughed from my flying job and now have a fair bit of time on my hands to get on with my project. My fuselage is the next major job, to mate the halves, but since I need a small army to help me and we have Covid-19 lockdown restrictions, no friends around, I am looking for other projects. Filling and sanding the wings sounds like a great Covid goal, however I have been advised to start with the tailplanes, a good idea. I do recall though that the fuselage to tailplane moulding is offset somewhat one one side, requiring a buildup and was wondering how other people have addressed this problem? I am then going to launch into the Smooth Prime system I think, just needing to read more on the system but the link below doesn=99t lead to their site anymore.I=99ll keep trying to find it. Would people recommend SuperFill as the easiest filler to use, or is there other sandable alternatives? Thanks. Regards Tony Renshaw > On 22 Feb 2012, at 4:48 am, Steven Pitt wrote: > > John et al, > I did my trigear in Smooth Prime for all the positives that have already been stated. I then had the aircraft professionally painted (rather than by me) and after 5 years I am still very happy with the results. However one other UK builder has not had such a good result with the same Smooth Prime and same painter although it is being rectified in good order. > I was always told that damp was the main problem with the Poly Fiber system ie it has to be absolutely dry before top coating and I know that mine went into a newly built oven on a low heat after having 'cured' in my garage for a couple of years after I painted the primer on. > I was interested to hear that the recommendation is now to seal with an epoxy primer and I can see the logic but who does it - the builder or the painter and does the primer also need sanding down. > At the end of the day you pays your money and ........ > As I said I was delighted with my aircraft finish and would recommend Smooth Prime again with the caveat. > Regards > Steve Pitt > G-SMDH > Trigear XS 912S >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Wigney >> To: Fred Klein ; Europa-List >> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:55 PM >> Subject: Europa-List: Re : Smooth Prime >> >> Hi Fred, >> >> I did my whole plane with Smooth Prime. I found it very easy to apply with a small diameter foam roller and small plastic paint tray. Instructions are at http://www.polyfiber.com/uvsmooth/ >> >> I did the 3 coats and sanded down with 320 grit. Sanded down again with 320 after another 3 coats. Sanding of Smooth Prime to get a good finish is very easy. As I remember the dilution, if any, was as specified on the can. I sprayed Aerothane topcoat after this with good results. I understand that some have had problems with the topcoat possibly due to inadequate drying of the water based Smooth Prime. Instructions are very clear that it should be left for 3 weeks to dry. Poly Fiber now recommend sealing the Smooth Prime with epoxy primer. I did not do this as it was not specified when I did the job. >> >> Re quantity, I do not remember. Suggest you start with 1 gallon and see how you get on. >> >> Cheers, John >> >> >> ORIGINAL MESSAGE >> From: Fred Klein >> Subject: Europa-List: Smooth Prime >> To those of you who have used Smooth Prime on their Europa XS...Have you used it JUST on the filled/foam control surfaces?...or on the ENTIRE airframe? >> In either case, how much material is necessary for the required THREE (undiluted) COATS before sanding? >> Thanks in advance, >> Fred >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ">http://www.matronhref ="http://forums.matronics.com ">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.