---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/24/20: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:44 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Advice re placement on Firewall options (John Wighton) 2. 03:51 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Advice re placement on Firewall options (Rowland Carson) 3. 10:00 AM - Has anyone Twist Welded Cables? (rparigoris) 4. 10:10 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Advice re placement on Firewall options (Kevin Challis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:31 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Instrument Panel Advice re placement on Firewall options From: "John Wighton" Mine is hard mounted and 500+ hours, no issues. However, I do not have sub-panels which necessitates the complete removal of the panel whenever l need to work on it. This is not recommended at all unless you are Olga Corbet sized and equally gifted at cockpit gymnastics. Modification to add 2 x sub-panels is on my bucket list. -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496006#496006 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:09 AM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Instrument Panel Advice re placement on Firewall options On 2020-04-23, at 06:21, Tony Renshaw wrote: > I have my instrument panel such that it sits on small rubber mounts > Ive also been advised to cut the lip off the top of the panel which I have addressed by building an inverted, internal flange, so I can do this, but other than weight saving Im wondering if that is a common thing to do Tony - I think it probably is common, although perhaps not much reported. Here is a link to a picture of my instrument module (F14) with a flange similar to what you describe: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/im_inner_flange.php Although I have now discarded the mechanical gyros I originally intended to fit: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/subpanel.php I am retaining the anti-vibration bushes on which the main aluminium panel is mounted. I feel that the mechanical movements of the ASI, altimeter & VSI would probably live a bit longer with some vibration damping. Here is a link to a picture of the unpopulated aluminium panels: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/laser_etching.php in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:10 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Has anyone Twist Welded Cables? From: "rparigoris" Hi Group Has anyone Twist Welded Cables? Comments welcomed. I'm thinking could be useful for 914 Throttle, Choke and Wastegate Cables. Here's a link if you are EAA Member: https://eaa.org/Videos/6101193115001 If not: put cable in vise gently, chuck end of cable with a drill that has very slow speed, slowly heat with Propane torch till cherry red then pull and run drill on very slow till cable breaks. You damaged the plating so take end and dip in self etch primer or similar. Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496011#496011 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:46 AM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: Instrument Panel Advice re placement on Firewall options Nearly 1000 hours no problems Kevin Challis G ODJG > On 23 Apr 2020, at 06:25, Tony Renshaw wrote: > > > Gidday, > I have my instrument panel such that it sits on small rubber mounts, the type that is a 1/2 wide rubber mount with a flat washer either side, which have centrally located threaded 1/4 shanks out each side. These ones are pretty hard though, hard to tell if they would do much. With these in place my panel will be suspended on them, and sit somewhat on a small soft rubber pad on top of my tunnel. I am wondering if I should be bothered, whether I should ditch this idea and mount the panel to the firewall directly like I believe the instructions dictate. Im keen on knowing what people think of attempts to isolate the high frequency vibration, whether it's worth the effort. I am going to have an electronic panel as best as I can, and my sub panels screw straight onto lugs on my panel carcass. Ive also been advised to cut the lip off the top of the panel which I have addressed by building an inverted, internal flange, so I can do this, but other than weight saving Im w! > ondering if that is a common thing to do. It wouldnt hurt to put my panel forward an extra 1/2 but its not an imperative, and I do already have the mounts attached to the firewall, albeit with nylocs on the engine side, to be changed for conventional nuts before I go too far and forget. > Any tips gratefully accepted. > Regards > Tony Renshaw > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.