Europa-List Digest Archive

Wed 06/17/20


Total Messages Posted: 25



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     1. 03:13 AM - Fuel Tank Fittings (Roger Sheridan)
     2. 03:31 AM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Kingsley Hurst)
     3. 03:39 AM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Kingsley Hurst)
     4. 03:57 AM - Re: N460HJ wouldnt start this am (h&jeuropa)
     5. 05:08 AM - Re: Re: N460HJ wouldnt start this am (William Daniell)
     6. 08:44 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Fittings (h&jeuropa)
     7. 10:52 AM - Re: Re : IFR certification (h&jeuropa)
     8. 10:56 AM - Re: N460HJ wouldnt start this am (h&jeuropa)
     9. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Tank Fittings (Roger Sheridan)
    10. 01:14 PM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    11. 01:28 PM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    12. 01:29 PM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    13. 01:47 PM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    14. 02:51 PM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    15. 03:56 PM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    16. 05:00 PM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    17. 05:57 PM - Fw: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    18. 05:58 PM - Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Kingsley Hurst)
    19. 06:02 PM - Fw: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    20. 06:11 PM - Fw: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    21. 06:31 PM - Fw: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    22. 07:10 PM - Fw: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    23. 08:15 PM - Fw: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    24. 09:19 PM - Fw: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
    25. 10:23 PM - Fw: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) (Jerry Rehn)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:13:15 AM PST US
    From: Roger Sheridan <rogersheridan@mac.com>
    Subject: Fuel Tank Fittings
    I hope to find two of these fuel tank outlet fittings originally produced for Graham Singleton in mod 10823. Please message me direct if you can help. Many thanks, Roger


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    Time: 03:31:39 AM PST US
    From: Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Hello Paul. My query about solid strand cable was just that . . . . a query. I have never had an issue with kinking. While my mate and I were working on the carbs recently, we damaged a cable and I was only considering replacment with the solid wire arrangement. I have now purchased some Teflon lined bicycle brake cable with stranded inners, am in the process of reusing the end fittings inside the throttle housing and have practiced (on the old cable) cutting the inner cable using the twist weld method referenced on the list recently by Ron Parigoris. I must say the twist weld method works brilliantly to stop fraying and adds no thickness at all to the cable end making it a breeze to insert in the clamps at the carby end. Thank you for your concern Paul, much appreciated. Best Kingsley On 16.06.20 6:33 am, Paul McAllister wrote: > Kingsley, mate I hope you don't mind me saying but you are trying to > fix something that isn't broken. :) > > I had great success by shortening my cables to a more appropriate > length and over the years there hasn't been a hint of an issue with > kinking. > > Cheers, Paul


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    Time: 03:39:15 AM PST US
    From: Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most concerned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. Best regards Kingsley On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: > > Kingsley, > > I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my > own firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted > wire and inserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to > the throttle lever, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. > Both items were purchased from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end > of the Bowden cable around the bushing forming a closed question mark > (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Weld. Attach the cable to the > throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 17+ years of trouble > free operation. Works a treat. > > Regards, > > Erich > > N28ET Classic Mono 914 > > Main Image >


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    Time: 03:57:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: N460HJ wouldnt start this am
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Will, The photo isn't visible. What failed? Thanks Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496877#496877


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    Time: 05:08:39 AM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: N460HJ wouldnt start this am
    Jim Ah ok the matronics server stopped it. The rubber carb flange....almost completely separated. So when it would start i opened up the cowling and having checked the plugs and ignition was just about the pull the float bowls off when the carb came off in my hand as it were. I must have landed with it close to that state. I can only guess that the induction suction plus the turbo airbox kept the carb on in flight. Will William Daniell +1 786 878 0246 On Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 06:59 h&amp;jeuropa <butcher43@att.net> wrote: > > Will, > > The photo isn't visible. What failed? > > Thanks > > Jim > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496877#496877 > >


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    Time: 08:44:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Fittings
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Roger, If you can't find them in the UK, I'm pretty certain I have them. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496882#496882


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    Time: 10:52:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Re : IFR certification
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    I think our IFR experience in our Europa is like Johns. Granted we mostly use IFR to climb or descend thru a cloud deck and for ATC services, especially in congested or unfamiliar airspace. Since there is no snow removal at our airport, we do not fly much in January or February. However, we have found our Europa carries ice without adversely changing the performance. Obviously we try to avoid icing and usually do. We have a conventional heated pitot which draws about 8 amps but with our modified voltage regulator, we have capacity so it can be used if necessary. There are more efficient pitots available today. Since fitting an adjustable cowl flap, cabin heat and windscreen defogging is much less a problem than originally. Jim, with the guidance of his regular CFII, has developed detailed IFR procedures that provide consistent results. He flies approaches frequently enough to maintain legal proficiency and he now completes both a Biannual Flight Review and Instrument Proficiency Check every twelve months (helps with insurance). Our Europa flies hands off when properly trimmed (both pitch and aileron trim) and we have no autopilot, so all piloting is by hand. Approaches are flown at cruise settings until reaching the Final Approach Fix (FAF) at which point the airplane is changed to landing configuration (gear/flaps down, power and pitch for appropriate rate of descent (usually 500 fpm) and 60 kts). Having an EFIS makes the mechanics of approaches easier because the information is presented efficiently. The velocity vector feature of our GRT EFIS reduces chasing the needles. Our navigation source is a Garmin GNS 430, so all approaches are setup and performed in a similar manner. Understanding how the GNS 430 operates and having the skill to use its features is key to IFR flight. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496887#496887


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    Time: 10:56:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: N460HJ wouldnt start this am
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Replacement of the rubber carb flange is called out in the 5 year rubber replacement instruction. There was a revision to the flange that is noted in SB 914-019 R1. Brett from Leading Edge Air Foils suggested we replace the rubber pad under the expansion tank. It is part no. 860 826. Indeed, when we got it out the old one was rotted. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496888#496888


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    Time: 01:10:56 PM PST US
    From: Roger Sheridan <rogersheridan@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Fittings
    Hi Jim, Awesome. Does that mean you seriously considered alu fuel lines then chose not to!! I see pro=99s & cons to both systems. What is super disappointing is the fuel smell I get using Gates Barricade from Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00498G5QC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_ o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00498G5QC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title _o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1> I sometimes wonder if it is counterfeit? A UK supplier shows white liner which is not noticeable on my hose. https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/fuel-hose-gates-barricade-ethanol-proof-5-16 -id-per-metre-gfh1031x.html <https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/fuel-hose-gates-barricade-ethanol-proof-5-1 6-id-per-metre-gfh1031x.html> Your opinions are of interest! Regards, Roger. PS Flew my classic into RAF Waddington today, launch point for the dam buster raids! > On 17 Jun 2020, at 16:43, h&amp;jeuropa <butcher43@att.net> wrote: > > > Roger, > > If you can't find them in the UK, I'm pretty certain I have them. > > Jim > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496882#496882 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:14:52 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    This is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one of the cabl e connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye, hanging b y threads! So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to sol id wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a new cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircraf t spruce. For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be wo rth a look. Thanks for any further thoughts. Jerry Mono 914 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wro te: > > =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conce rned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. > > Best regards > Kingsley > > On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >> Kingsley, >> >> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my ow n firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >> >> Regards, >> Erich >> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >> >> <image001.jpg> >


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    Time: 01:28:17 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    This is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one of the cabl e connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye, hanging b y threads! So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to sol id wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a new cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircraf t spruce. For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be wo rth a look. Thanks for any further thoughts. Jerry Mono 914 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wro te: > > =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conce rned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. > > Best regards > Kingsley > > On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >> Kingsley, >> >> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my ow n firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >> >> Regards, >> Erich >> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >> >> <image001.jpg> >


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    Time: 01:29:07 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    This is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one of the cabl e connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye, hanging b y threads! So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to sol id wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a new cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircraf t spruce. For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be wo rth a look. Thanks for any further thoughts. Jerry Mono 914 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wro te: > > =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conce rned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. > > Best regards > Kingsley > > On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >> Kingsley, >> >> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my ow n firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >> >> Regards, >> Erich >> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >> >> <image001.jpg> >


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    Time: 01:47:30 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    This is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one of the cabl e connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye, hanging b y threads! So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to sol id wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a new cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircraf t spruce. For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be wo rth a look. Thanks for any further thoughts. Jerry Mono 914 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wro te: > > =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conce rned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. > > Best regards > Kingsley > > On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >> Kingsley, >> >> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my ow n firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >> >> Regards, >> Erich >> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >> >> <image001.jpg> >


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    Time: 02:51:56 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    This is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one of the cabl e connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye, hanging b y threads! So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to sol id wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a new cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircraf t spruce. For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be wo rth a look. Thanks for any further thoughts. Jerry Mono 914 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wro te: > > =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conce rned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. > > Best regards > Kingsley > > On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >> Kingsley, >> >> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my ow n firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >> >> Regards, >> Erich >> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >> >> <image001.jpg> >


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    Time: 03:56:44 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    This is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one of the cabl e connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye, hanging b y threads! So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to sol id wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a new cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircraf t spruce. For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be wo rth a look. Thanks for any further thoughts. Jerry Mono 914 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wro te: > > =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conce rned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. > > Best regards > Kingsley > > On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >> Kingsley, >> >> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my ow n firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >> >> Regards, >> Erich >> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >> >> <image001.jpg> >


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    Time: 05:00:08 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    This is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one of the cabl e connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye, hanging b y threads! So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to sol id wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a new cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircraf t spruce. For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be wo rth a look. Thanks for any further thoughts. Jerry Mono 914 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wro te: > > =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conce rned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. > > Best regards > Kingsley > > On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >> Kingsley, >> >> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my ow n firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >> >> Regards, >> Erich >> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >> >> <image001.jpg> >


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    Time: 05:57:37 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Sent again, looks like it bounced on my end, sorry if this is repeat. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> > Date: June 17, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM PDT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) > > =EF=BBThis is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one o f the cable connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye , hanging by threads! > So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to s olid wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a n ew cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? > Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircr aft spruce. > For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be w orth a look. > Thanks for any further thoughts. > Jerry > Mono 914 > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w rote: >>> >> =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conc erned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. >> >> Best regards >> Kingsley >> >> On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >>> Kingsley, >>> >>> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my o wn firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Erich >>> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>


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    Time: 05:58:48 PM PST US
    From: Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Hello Jerry, Do you stutter mate? Just joking . . . . . your post came through seven times on the list! Since only one cable was frayed, I suspect the TH03 fitting was binding on the sleeve on which it should pivot freely. This would cause the fitting to flex the cable at the end of the crimp as it appears it has done. I further imagine that in cold countries like yours that after a winter lay-up, any grease on the fitting could become quite sticky and may well be the culprit. Best regards Kingsley


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    Time: 06:02:08 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Sent again, looks like it bounced on my end, sorry if this is repeat. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> > Date: June 17, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM PDT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) > > =EF=BBThis is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one o f the cable connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye , hanging by threads! > So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to s olid wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a n ew cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? > Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircr aft spruce. > For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be w orth a look. > Thanks for any further thoughts. > Jerry > Mono 914 > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w rote: >>> >> =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conc erned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. >> >> Best regards >> Kingsley >> >> On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >>> Kingsley, >>> >>> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my o wn firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Erich >>> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>


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    Time: 06:11:12 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Sent again, looks like it bounced on my end, sorry if this is repeat. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> > Date: June 17, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM PDT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) > > =EF=BBThis is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one o f the cable connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye , hanging by threads! > So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to s olid wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a n ew cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? > Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircr aft spruce. > For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be w orth a look. > Thanks for any further thoughts. > Jerry > Mono 914 > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w rote: >>> >> =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conc erned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. >> >> Best regards >> Kingsley >> >> On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >>> Kingsley, >>> >>> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my o wn firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Erich >>> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>


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    Time: 06:31:45 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Sent again, looks like it bounced on my end, sorry if this is repeat. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> > Date: June 17, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM PDT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) > > =EF=BBThis is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one o f the cable connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye , hanging by threads! > So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to s olid wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a n ew cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? > Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircr aft spruce. > For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be w orth a look. > Thanks for any further thoughts. > Jerry > Mono 914 > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w rote: >>> >> =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conc erned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. >> >> Best regards >> Kingsley >> >> On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >>> Kingsley, >>> >>> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my o wn firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Erich >>> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>


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    Time: 07:10:02 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Sent again, looks like it bounced on my end, sorry if this is repeat. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> > Date: June 17, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM PDT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) > > =EF=BBThis is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one o f the cable connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye , hanging by threads! > So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to s olid wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a n ew cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? > Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircr aft spruce. > For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be w orth a look. > Thanks for any further thoughts. > Jerry > Mono 914 > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w rote: >>> >> =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conc erned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. >> >> Best regards >> Kingsley >> >> On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >>> Kingsley, >>> >>> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my o wn firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Erich >>> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>


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    Time: 08:15:25 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Sent again, looks like it bounced on my end, sorry if this is repeat. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> > Date: June 17, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM PDT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) > > =EF=BBThis is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one o f the cable connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye , hanging by threads! > So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to s olid wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a n ew cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? > Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircr aft spruce. > For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be w orth a look. > Thanks for any further thoughts. > Jerry > Mono 914 > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w rote: >>> >> =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conc erned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. >> >> Best regards >> Kingsley >> >> On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >>> Kingsley, >>> >>> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my o wn firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Erich >>> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>


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    Time: 09:19:26 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Sent again, looks like it bounced on my end, sorry if this is repeat. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> > Date: June 17, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM PDT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) > > =EF=BBThis is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one o f the cable connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye , hanging by threads! > So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to s olid wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a n ew cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? > Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircr aft spruce. > For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be w orth a look. > Thanks for any further thoughts. > Jerry > Mono 914 > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w rote: >>> >> =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conc erned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. >> >> Best regards >> Kingsley >> >> On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >>> Kingsley, >>> >>> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my o wn firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Erich >>> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>


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    Time: 10:23:35 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire)
    Sent again, looks like it bounced on my end, sorry if this is repeat. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> > Date: June 17, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM PDT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cables with solid inner (piano wire) > > =EF=BBThis is timely! My inspection of the throttle box discovered one o f the cable connections was very frayed right at the TH03 throttle cable eye , hanging by threads! > So I am looking at my options to stay with a similar install or going to s olid wire. I imagine to stay =9Cstock=9DI will need to order a n ew cable with the TH03 cable eye connected assuming they are available? > Other wise going Erich=99s route, which allows me to order via aircr aft spruce. > For those of you who haven=99t inspected this for a while, might be w orth a look. > Thanks for any further thoughts. > Jerry > Mono 914 > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w rote: >>> >> =EF=BB Thank you Erich, you have answered the question I was most conc erned about. Please see my reply to Paul McAllister. >> >> Best regards >> Kingsley >> >> On 15.06.20 2:24 am, erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote: >>> Kingsley, >>> >>> I used solid stainless steel Bowden wire, .078" diameter. As I did my o wn firewall forward I purchased bicycle cable, removed the twisted wire and i nserted the solid Bowden wire. Regarding the connection to the throttle lev er, I used AN111 Cable bushings as pictured below. Both items were purchase d from Aircraft Spruce. Simply bend the end of the Bowden cable around the b ushing forming a closed question mark (?) and secure it with Redux or JB Wel d. Attach the cable to the throttle lever as per the Europa instructions. 1 7+ years of trouble free operation. Works a treat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Erich >>> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>




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