---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/26/20: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:41 AM - FW: Frame/gear offset error? (Pete Jeffers) 2. 05:24 AM - Re: Hand propping the Rotax (Kingsley Hurst) 3. 05:41 AM - Re: Hand propping the Rotax (Steve Ivell) 4. 09:35 AM - Re: Frame/gear offset error? (Remi Guerner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:30 AM PST US From: "Pete Jeffers" Subject: FW: Europa-List: Frame/gear offset error? Hi again, I have, thanks to Bob Hitchcock, now found the page and picture I refer to. The assembly I refer to is on P 29M - 7 of the build manual. The item I refer to which can be fitted the wrong way round is LG 05 ( shock absorber top plate). Please chech this before you start filing anything. Pete J -----Original Message----- From: Pete Jeffers [mailto:pjeffers@talktalk.net] Sent: 25 June 2020 15:46 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Frame/gear offset error? H Pete, I am afraid your description and photo do not tell me a great deal about your problem BUT I would like you to check something that causes a restriction much as you describe Ie leg not retracting or extending properly. I would use a manual page to refer you to but I am unable to get onto the Europa Aircraft web site. I know I am registered but they don't think I am. There is one unit that can be fitted either one of two ways round. One is right and the other will give you a problemm such as you describe. I now have a tri gear so only have immediate access to a Tri Gear manual. Not too helpful when you are talking Mono problems. Pete Jeffers ( LAA rep to the Europa Club) -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Sent: 24 June 2020 16:25 Subject: Europa-List: Frame/gear offset error? Hi Folks, My kits (circa-2001) frame seem to have an offset error on the swing-arm tube centering tabs, making it not possible to drop the gear without interference. Anyone else seen this error? Looks like a fiddly fix to carefully grind down one tab and adding to the other. Picture is attached (if it gets through - also posted on the Europa Aircraft Owners FB page) Thoughts/experiences anyone? Many thanks, Pete A239 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hand propping the Rotax From: Kingsley Hurst Remi, Thank you for the link. Didn't seem too hard to start at all. Until this video, the only other time I have heard of was when someone landed on a beach and experienced a flat battery. Needless to say, the incoming tide provided the necessary impetus to crank the engine successfully by hand! Regards Kingsley Do not archive On 25.06.20 12:08 am, Remi Guerner wrote: > > It is well known that the Rotax cannot be handpropped, right? This was what I believed...until I watched this video (2:00 - 3:00): > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDsQIgUYvxY > > Remi ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:55 AM PST US From: Steve Ivell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hand propping the Rotax It CAN be done if you're desperate!! Probably only possible with a pre warm ed engine. Steve Ivell Managing Director Pestproof Ltd. steveivell@pestproof.co.uk 07971 128842 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Kingsley Hurst Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:23:21 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hand propping the Rotax > Remi, Thank you for the link. Didn't seem too hard to start at all. Until this video, the only other time I have heard of was when someone landed on a beach and experienced a flat battery. Needless to say, the incoming tide provided the necessary impetus to crank the engine successfully by hand! Regards Kingsley Do not archive On 25.06.20 12:08 am, Remi Guerner wrote: > > It is well known that the Rotax cannot be handpropped, right? This was wh at I believed...until I watched this video (2:00 - 3:00): > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDsQIgUYvxY > > Remi ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:53 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Frame/gear offset error? From: "Remi Guerner" Pete, Please ignore my previous post. After a closer look at your photos, I see now the tiny tabs you are referring to. You are perfectly right: they are welded in a position which makes the swinging arm to be offset to the pilot side. Not easy to fix that properly. Good luck! 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