---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/20/20: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:37 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: classic firewall (crouton) 2. 03:01 PM - Removing a starter on a classic? (Pete) 3. 04:10 PM - Re: Removing a starter on a classic? (Tim Ward) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:22 AM PST US From: crouton Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: classic firewall I had bad cooling problems on my 80hp Classic until I removed the second muffler and replaced it with a straight pipe. Now, while it makes more noise, I can climb forever at 85kt in the Florida summer: 30C @1000ft on a relatively cool morning. That chamber of the muffler blocks a lot of air. Creighton 96EG. A-009 Sent from my iPad > On Jul 19, 2020, at 02:35, Europa-List Digest Server wrote: > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(D McFadyean) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:41:50 AM PST US > From: Pete > Subject: Europa-List: Classic firewall.... singleton vs steel & cooling. > > > Hi folks, > > I found on my classic that the composite firewall pretty well closed off the cowl > exit on my classic, with the muffler tucked up right against it. > > I now wonder if the rudder pedal tubes and drive arms can be left on the engine > side of the firewall, and simply fabricate a stainless firewall sheet in line > with the upper firewall, leaving the rudder pedals, and all four engine mounts > on the engine side of the firewall. > > I wonder how warm the pedals will get in the summer? My classic does have nicely > overlapping and tight stainless rudder pedal passthroughs. > > Does anyone out there have a classic with a firewall as i have described? > > Cheers and thx, > Pete > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:01:41 AM PST US > From: D McFadyean > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Classic firewall.... singleton vs steel & cooling. > > > I have a set up (the standard set up) much the same as your proposal. > The rudder pedals don't get hot. > Anything in the tunnel behind the steel firewall gets really hot, unless you have > a monowheel with lots of default circulating cooling air. Accordingly, I have > a 'fireblanket' on the back side of the steel, which reduces temperatures in > the tunnel. > > Duncan McF. > >> On 18 July 2020 at 18:39 Pete wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I found on my classic that the composite firewall pretty well closed off the > cowl exit on my classic, with the muffler tucked up right against it. >> >> I now wonder if the rudder pedal tubes and drive arms can be left on the engine > side of the firewall, and simply fabricate a stainless firewall sheet in line > with the upper firewall, leaving the rudder pedals, and all four engine mounts > on the engine side of the firewall. >> >> I wonder how warm the pedals will get in the summer? My classic does have nicely > overlapping and tight stainless rudder pedal passthroughs. >> >> Does anyone out there have a classic with a firewall as i have described? >> >> Cheers and thx, >> Pete >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:35 PM PST US From: Pete Subject: Europa-List: Removing a starter on a classic? For the classic owners out there, With my engine out, but the mount frame still on the engine, is it possible t o remove the starter to give it a service/inspection (while the engine is ou t)? Or must the engine frame be removed? Many thanks! Pete ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:11 PM PST US From: Tim Ward Subject: Re: Europa-List: Removing a starter on a classic? Hi Pete, I recall you do to allow enough room for the starter spline to withdraw. Also to get at the top bolt. Have a go first, nothing ventured nothing gained. I have had to replace my starter with the Rotax HD starter as I have the Rotax 912 100hp ULS. Starter too small to start engine during Winter. Had to make a slight alteration to engine frame to accommodate the longer new starter. Cheers, Tim Sent from my iPhone Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton CHRISTCHURCH 8052 Hom 03315166 > On 21/07/2020, at 10:29, Pete wrote: > > For the classic owners out there, > > With my engine out, but the mount frame still on the engine, is it possible to remove the starter to give it a service/inspection (while the engine is out)? Or must the engine frame be removed? > > Many thanks! > Pete > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.