---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/05/20: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:03 AM - Re: Airbox for 912S (Steven Pitt) 2. 03:18 PM - MGL EFIS and autopilot (maxe59) 3. 05:32 PM - Re: Airbox for 912S (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:09 AM PST US From: Steven Pitt Subject: Re: Europa-List: Airbox for 912S Now I have a dilemma. I have measured the diameter of the inner carburettor at 45mm. The airbox outer tube is 48/49mm - the inner diameter 39 and 42mm (these measurements after my fix - several layers of bid to strengthen the orifices after they collapsed under the tightness of the worm driven band). I have never had a problem with the carburettors and never given any thought to a mismatch between the two diameters. I was always aware the the box was poorly finished and the air intakes were easy to crush, but with the bolt holding the box to the engine frame it had never departed giving me an inflight issue. It is also notable that the two orifices were not the same size even before the collapse. The only way I can see to equalise the two is to rebuild the airbox as per Dave Ps suggestion - cut the ends off - find an aluminium tube with inside diameter of 45mm and bond that in with bid. Anyone got any tube to that size? Anyone else wishing to add any advice before I carve the boxes up. Also what is the airbox made from? It looks like chopped strand mat fibreglass. Regards Steve G-SMDH > On 3 Sep 2020, at 15:45, david park wrote: > > > When I had a airbox on initial build I bonded alloy tupe in to exits to strengthen them. > > Dave Park > > >> On 3 Sep 2020, at 15:37, Jeff B wrote: >> >> >> Steve, you should be fine as long as the internal diameter of the tube is equal to or greater than the internal diameter of the carb opening. >> >> Jeff >> >> "I believe that forgiving them is God's function. Our job is to arrange the meeting." >> >> -Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf >> >>> On 9/3/2020 8:40 AM, Steven Pitt wrote: >>> I have had to repair my airbox as it split under the clamp. >>> Can anyone tell me how critical the airflow into the carburettors via the box is? Do I need to ensure a smooth and equal airflow? >>> I suspect not as the quality of the airbox is somewhat rudimentary. >>> For information I made up some bid' tube and epoxied it into the existing airflow tube. I have tried to make the entrance a smooth as possible. >>> Thank you. >>> Steve Pitt >>> G-SMDH >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:07 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: MGL EFIS and autopilot From: "maxe59" I have a Trigear classic with 914 and Arplast prop. I am considering installing an MGL Challenger EFIS and possibly autopilot servos. Has anyone out there installed a similar set up? If so, any tips, tricks or pitfalls to be aware of? I look forward to hearing from someone. Cheers Max Earnshaw ZK-VMC Christchurch, New Zealand Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=498154#498154 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:44 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airbox for 912S U3RldmUsDQpUaGUgYmluZyA2NCBoYXMgYSA1MG1tIE9EIGlubGV0IGZvciB0aGUgZmlsdGVyIG9y IGFpcmJveCBhdHRhY2htZW50LiAgVGhlIGJvcmUgaXMgbm9taW5hbGx5IDM2bW0uDQoNClRoZSBh aXJib3ggKGFrYSByZWFsbHkgY2hlYXAgcG9seWVzdGVyIGNob3AgYW5kIGdsYXNzIGJpdCBmcm9t IEV1cm9wYSkgaGF2ZSBlbmRzIHRoYXQgYXR0YWNoIHRvIHRoZSBjYXJiIGFyZSA1MCBtbSB0YXBl cmluZyB1cCA1MiBtbSBpc2guICBUaGUgY2hvcCBvbiBzb21lIG9mIHRoZXNlIGlzIHNvIGJhZCBJ IGhhZCB0byByZWluZm9yY2UgaXQgZm9yIHRoZSBwb3Agcml2ZXRzIG9uIHRoZSBudXRwbGF0ZSBp dCBzaGF0dGVyZWQgc28gYmFkLg0KDQpKZWZmIFJvYmVydHMgd2FzIHRoZSBmaXJzdCBJIGhhZCBz ZWVuIG1vZGlmeSBoaXMgYWlyYm94IGR1ZSB0byBjcmFja2luZy4gIEl0IGFwcGVhcmVkIGhlIHVz ZWQgYSBwaWVjZSBvZiB0d28gaW5jaCBhbHVtaW51bSB0dWJpbmcgYW5kIHNsaWQgaXQgaW50byB0 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