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1. 12:19 AM - Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank (John Wighton)
2. 01:16 AM - Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank (Rick Moss)
3. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank (timward)
4. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank ()
5. 10:58 AM - Re: Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank (Pete)
6. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank (timward)
7. 12:41 PM - Mono wheel and brake by Beringer (Jerry Rehn)
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| Subject: | Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank |
Reply to Tim.
The return line goes to the reserve side, therefore the last tank you switch to
should always be the reserve. As this will receive the excess fuel that is bypassing
the carb.
So when your tank/gauge says empty stay on main tank. As soon as the engine faulters
switch to reserve, you then have 9 lites remaining. Every drop of that
is available to you, including the returned fuel.
Regards
JW
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John Wighton
Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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| Subject: | Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank |
John Wighton wrote:
> Reply to Tim.
>
> The return line goes to the reserve side, therefore the last tank you switch
to should always be the reserve. As this will receive the excess fuel that is
bypassing the carb.
>
> So when your tank/gauge says empty stay on main tank. As soon as the engine
faulters switch to reserve, you then have 9 lites remaining. Every drop of that
is available to you, including the returned fuel.
>
> Regards
> JW
Certainly true, but I'm not sure I have the cajones to operate on the "run it until
it falters" principle of fuel management!
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| Subject: | Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank |
Hi John,
The return fuel to the reserve tank is a very small amount due to the restri
ctor placed in the return line pipe from the T intersection. Most excess fue
l now flows out through an overflow tube from the new Rotax engine mechanica
l fuel pump. I would prefer to make sure the reserve fuel filter is not bloc
ked and the flow to the engine is uninhabited by selecting the Reserve first
for 30 mins then back to the Main for the last 30mins, a conservative appro
ach.
Cheers,
Tim
Sent from my iPad
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch,
8052
New Zealand
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
021 0640221
> On 2/11/2020, at 9:27 PM, John Wighton <john@wighton.net> wrote:
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> Reply to Tim.
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> The return line goes to the reserve side, therefore the last tank you swit
ch to should always be the reserve. As this will receive the excess fuel tha
t is bypassing the carb.
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> So when your tank/gauge says empty stay on main tank. As soon as the engi
ne faulters switch to reserve, you then have 9 lites remaining. Every drop o
f that is available to you, including the returned fuel.
>
> Regards
> JW
>
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> John Wighton
> Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499180#499180
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| Subject: | Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank |
The "run until it falters" or "fly to failure" principle of fuel management
can be much improved by the fitting of a fuel pressure gauge or warning
light. This will normally give sufficient advance warning of fuel exhaustion
in the main tank to allow the reserve to be selected without the engine
missing a beat while it continues to run on fuel in the carburettors.
Depending on the type of gauge, the needle may start to fluctuate or the
light may flicker when the smooth flow of fuel is interrupted. This can be a
good attention-getter (I speak from experience!)
While on the subject of fuel system configuration, I feel it is important to
remind all UK builders and operators of the note accompanying my fuel system
review on the Club website
https://www.theeuropaclub.org/owning/safety/fuel-system-review-mike-gregory-
2019
"In U.K. any deviation from the current Europa published fuel
system must be approved by the LAA modification system in the normal way."
Regards,
Mike
Dr Mike Gregory
Europa Club Safety Officer
01480 451655
07885 355765
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<owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Rick Moss
Sent: 02 November 2020 09:17
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank
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John Wighton wrote:
> Reply to Tim.
>
> The return line goes to the reserve side, therefore the last tank you
switch to should always be the reserve. As this will receive the excess fuel
that is bypassing the carb.
>
> So when your tank/gauge says empty stay on main tank. As soon as the
engine faulters switch to reserve, you then have 9 lites remaining. Every
drop of that is available to you, including the returned fuel.
>
> Regards
> JW
Certainly true, but I'm not sure I have the cajones to operate on the "run
it until it falters" principle of fuel management!
Read this topic online here:
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499181#499181>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499181#499181
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| Subject: | Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank |
Hi Tim,
I=99m confused, that pump overflow tube is to capture any leakage if t
he pump=99s diaphragm fails, no? It is normally dry.
Cheers,
Pete
> On Nov 2, 2020, at 1:45 PM, timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> =EF=BBHi John,
> The return fuel to the reserve tank is a very small amount due to the rest
rictor placed in the return line pipe from the T intersection. Most excess f
uel now flows out through an overflow tube from the new Rotax engine mechani
cal fuel pump. I would prefer to make sure the reserve fuel filter is not bl
ocked and the flow to the engine is uninhabited by selecting the Reserve fir
st for 30 mins then back to the Main for the last 30mins, a conservative app
roach.
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch,
> 8052
> New Zealand
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
> 021 0640221
>
>>> On 2/11/2020, at 9:27 PM, John Wighton <john@wighton.net> wrote:
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net>
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>> Reply to Tim.
>>
>> The return line goes to the reserve side, therefore the last tank you swi
tch to should always be the reserve. As this will receive the excess fuel th
at is bypassing the carb.
>>
>> So when your tank/gauge says empty stay on main tank. As soon as the eng
ine faulters switch to reserve, you then have 9 lites remaining. Every drop o
f that is available to you, including the returned fuel.
>>
>> Regards
>> JW
>>
>> --------
>> John Wighton
>> Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499180#499180
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| Subject: | Re: Connecting both sides of the fuel tank |
Hi Pete, I thought it was an overflow as well. You may well be right. Have t
o ask Rotax.
Tim
Sent from my iPad
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch,
8052
New Zealand
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
021 0640221
> On 3/11/2020, at 8:30 AM, Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB
> Hi Tim,
>
> I=99m confused, that pump overflow tube is to capture any leakage if
the pump=99s diaphragm fails, no? It is normally dry.
>
> Cheers,
> Pete
>
>>> On Nov 2, 2020, at 1:45 PM, timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>> =EF=BBHi John,
>> The return fuel to the reserve tank is a very small amount due to the res
trictor placed in the return line pipe from the T intersection. Most excess f
uel now flows out through an overflow tube from the new Rotax engine mechani
cal fuel pump. I would prefer to make sure the reserve fuel filter is not bl
ocked and the flow to the engine is uninhabited by selecting the Reserve fir
st for 30 mins then back to the Main for the last 30mins, a conservative app
roach.
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch,
>> 8052
>> New Zealand
>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>> 021 0640221
>>
>>>> On 2/11/2020, at 9:27 PM, John Wighton <john@wighton.net> wrote:
>>>>
.net>
>>>
>>> Reply to Tim.
>>>
>>> The return line goes to the reserve side, therefore the last tank you sw
itch to should always be the reserve. As this will receive the excess fuel t
hat is bypassing the carb.
>>>
>>> So when your tank/gauge says empty stay on main tank. As soon as the en
gine faulters switch to reserve, you then have 9 lites remaining. Every drop
of that is available to you, including the returned fuel.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JW
>>>
>>> --------
>>> John Wighton
>>> Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=499180#499180
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| Subject: | Mono wheel and brake by Beringer |
I read about this in Europa Flyer and wondering if there are others that have it
and their thoughts on it.
Thanks
Jerry
Mono XS
914
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