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1. 12:39 AM - Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (JohnFrance)
2. 02:36 AM - Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (olihqt)
3. 04:14 AM - Re: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (Mike)
4. 04:32 AM - Re: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (James)
5. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (Mike)
6. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (James)
7. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (Mike)
8. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (James)
9. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters (Steve Ivell)
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Hello David,
I know you asked for details to your personal mail but it has become a public debate
anyway so here is my two pennyworth.
I use two Sytec PRO896 filters which have a 52 micron mesh as proposed by Europa
in a main and reserve setup. I change them during the annual and check them
at 25 hour intervals.
Fortunately I have never seen more than a few specks of contamination in the filters
and I am happy with their performance to date. My aircraft is kept in a
hanger unless traveling so I have never seen any water contamination which could
clog a filter of this size quite quickly I imagine.
In this application the filter is there to protect the float needle valve and jets
in the carburetter, if it gets clogged it's done it's job but the capacity
was insufficient for the amount of contamination/hours of operation.
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Europa mono Nr 192
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Hello David,
I recently have a problem during take-off. Powerloss and the motor stop during
the return to airfield.
After inspection of the filters, I was discover some water and particules . I will
replace the in-line filter by gascolator. Filters was fully clean and inspected
15h of flying ago. I use mogas and a electric pump with a filter to fill
the tank. Actually, the hangar is very humide with big temperatures differences.
I have lot of condensation.
friendly
Olivier F-PAKV 564
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Bonjour Olivier
Just picking up on something you mentioned in your reply, could you explain
your electric fuel pump set up in some detail as I would be very interested
in something that saves me lifting 20LTR cans. Especially as I have a
classic with the filler on the top of the fuselage!
Thanks
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of olihqt
Sent: 08 February 2021 10:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Hello David,
I recently have a problem during take-off. Powerloss and the motor stop
during the return to airfield.
After inspection of the filters, I was discover some water and particules .
I will replace the in-line filter by gascolator. Filters was fully clean and
inspected 15h of flying ago. I use mogas and a electric pump with a filter
to fill the tank. Actually, the hangar is very humide with big temperatures
differences. I have lot of condensation.
friendly
Olivier F-PAKV 564
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Mike,
Have you ever tried the Manual Hand operated Pressure Pump specially
designed for Jerry Cans? tinyurl.com/Hand-Operated-Pressure-Pump
I have one and it works well but for the Europa roof inlet I had to extend
the original pipe.
Regards
James
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:14
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Bonjour Olivier
Just picking up on something you mentioned in your reply, could you explain
your electric fuel pump set up in some detail as I would be very interested
in something that saves me lifting 20LTR cans. Especially as I have a
classic with the filler on the top of the fuselage!
Thanks
Mike
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of olihqt
Sent: 08 February 2021 10:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Hello David,
I recently have a problem during take-off. Powerloss and the motor stop
during the return to airfield.
After inspection of the filters, I was discover some water and particules .
I will replace the in-line filter by gascolator. Filters was fully clean and
inspected 15h of flying ago. I use mogas and a electric pump with a filter
to fill the tank. Actually, the hangar is very humide with big temperatures
differences. I have lot of condensation.
friendly
Olivier F-PAKV 564
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Thanks James, I will have a look. I don't mind making a modification.
Cheers
Mike
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:32
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Mike,
Have you ever tried the Manual Hand operated Pressure Pump specially
designed for Jerry Cans? tinyurl.com/Hand-Operated-Pressure-Pump
I have one and it works well but for the Europa roof inlet I had to extend
the original pipe.
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:14
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Bonjour Olivier
Just picking up on something you mentioned in your reply, could you explain
your electric fuel pump set up in some detail as I would be very interested
in something that saves me lifting 20LTR cans. Especially as I have a
classic with the filler on the top of the fuselage!
Thanks
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of olihqt
Sent: 08 February 2021 10:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Hello David,
I recently have a problem during take-off. Powerloss and the motor stop
during the return to airfield.
After inspection of the filters, I was discover some water and particules .
I will replace the in-line filter by gascolator. Filters was fully clean and
inspected 15h of flying ago. I use mogas and a electric pump with a filter
to fill the tank. Actually, the hangar is very humide with big temperatures
differences. I have lot of condensation.
friendly
Olivier F-PAKV 564
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Mike,
I actually purchased my hand pump from Flylight at the BMAA Flying Show @
Popham a few years ago. I've just checked their online shop and discovered
that they also sell a 1m extension for their pump. See link below.
https://www.shop.flylight.co.uk/ekmps/shops/140142/jerry-can-fuel-transfer-h
and-pump---1-meter-extension-pipe-189-p.asp
https://www.shop.flylight.co.uk/ekmps/shops/140142/jerry-can-fuel-transfer-h
and-pump-1211-p.asp
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 14:27
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Thanks James, I will have a look. I don't mind making a modification.
Cheers
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:32
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Mike,
Have you ever tried the Manual Hand operated Pressure Pump specially
designed for Jerry Cans? tinyurl.com/Hand-Operated-Pressure-Pump
I have one and it works well but for the Europa roof inlet I had to extend
the original pipe.
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:14
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Bonjour Olivier
Just picking up on something you mentioned in your reply, could you explain
your electric fuel pump set up in some detail as I would be very interested
in something that saves me lifting 20LTR cans. Especially as I have a
classic with the filler on the top of the fuselage!
Thanks
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of olihqt
Sent: 08 February 2021 10:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Hello David,
I recently have a problem during take-off. Powerloss and the motor stop
during the return to airfield.
After inspection of the filters, I was discover some water and particules .
I will replace the in-line filter by gascolator. Filters was fully clean and
inspected 15h of flying ago. I use mogas and a electric pump with a filter
to fill the tank. Actually, the hangar is very humide with big temperatures
differences. I have lot of condensation.
friendly
Olivier F-PAKV 564
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Thanks again James, I've had a look and I have seen one of these before but
was told that the pump cylinder connection point was weak, I was also
thinking that the transfer rate might be poor but I have no concrete
evidence that this is the case. I'm interested to know what yours has been
like in use as I would be happy to give it a go.
Cheers
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 08 February 2021 15:37
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Mike,
I actually purchased my hand pump from Flylight at the BMAA Flying Show @
Popham a few years ago. I've just checked their online shop and discovered
that they also sell a 1m extension for their pump. See link below.
https://www.shop.flylight.co.uk/ekmps/shops/140142/jerry-can-fuel-transfer-h
and-pump---1-meter-extension-pipe-189-p.asp
https://www.shop.flylight.co.uk/ekmps/shops/140142/jerry-can-fuel-transfer-h
and-pump-1211-p.asp
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 14:27
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Thanks James, I will have a look. I don't mind making a modification.
Cheers
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:32
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Mike,
Have you ever tried the Manual Hand operated Pressure Pump specially
designed for Jerry Cans? tinyurl.com/Hand-Operated-Pressure-Pump
I have one and it works well but for the Europa roof inlet I had to extend
the original pipe.
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:14
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Bonjour Olivier
Just picking up on something you mentioned in your reply, could you explain
your electric fuel pump set up in some detail as I would be very interested
in something that saves me lifting 20LTR cans. Especially as I have a
classic with the filler on the top of the fuselage!
Thanks
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of olihqt
Sent: 08 February 2021 10:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Hello David,
I recently have a problem during take-off. Powerloss and the motor stop
during the return to airfield.
After inspection of the filters, I was discover some water and particules .
I will replace the in-line filter by gascolator. Filters was fully clean and
inspected 15h of flying ago. I use mogas and a electric pump with a filter
to fill the tank. Actually, the hangar is very humide with big temperatures
differences. I have lot of condensation.
friendly
Olivier F-PAKV 564
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Yes Mike, the Pump Cylinder connection point is weak but if you're careful
and gentle (not rough) with it, it's fine. As regards the flow rate; I use
mine in conjunction with a Mr. Funnel (with built in Water Filter) Funnel,
the pump's flow rate easily out-runs the funnel's flow rate. I've never
tried it with a standard funnel as I would never use a funnel without a
water filter!
Regards,
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 16:47
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Thanks again James, I've had a look and I have seen one of these before but
was told that the pump cylinder connection point was weak, I was also
thinking that the transfer rate might be poor but I have no concrete
evidence that this is the case. I'm interested to know what yours has been
like in use as I would be happy to give it a go.
Cheers
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 08 February 2021 15:37
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Mike,
I actually purchased my hand pump from Flylight at the BMAA Flying Show @
Popham a few years ago. I've just checked their online shop and discovered
that they also sell a 1m extension for their pump. See link below.
https://www.shop.flylight.co.uk/ekmps/shops/140142/jerry-can-fuel-transfer-h
and-pump---1-meter-extension-pipe-189-p.asp
https://www.shop.flylight.co.uk/ekmps/shops/140142/jerry-can-fuel-transfer-h
and-pump-1211-p.asp
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 14:27
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Thanks James, I will have a look. I don't mind making a modification.
Cheers
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:32
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Mike,
Have you ever tried the Manual Hand operated Pressure Pump specially
designed for Jerry Cans? tinyurl.com/Hand-Operated-Pressure-Pump
I have one and it works well but for the Europa roof inlet I had to extend
the original pipe.
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:14
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Bonjour Olivier
Just picking up on something you mentioned in your reply, could you explain
your electric fuel pump set up in some detail as I would be very interested
in something that saves me lifting 20LTR cans. Especially as I have a
classic with the filler on the top of the fuselage!
Thanks
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of olihqt
Sent: 08 February 2021 10:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Hello David,
I recently have a problem during take-off. Powerloss and the motor stop
during the return to airfield.
After inspection of the filters, I was discover some water and particules .
I will replace the in-line filter by gascolator. Filters was fully clean and
inspected 15h of flying ago. I use mogas and a electric pump with a filter
to fill the tank. Actually, the hangar is very humide with big temperatures
differences. I have lot of condensation.
friendly
Olivier F-PAKV 564
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Subject: | Re: Blocked Fuel Filters |
Hi Mike
I've had one for ages. The transfer rate is fine and once you get it going
it will siphon.
Yes the pipe where the pump attaches looks a bit weak but mine has lasted a
ges. If I was clever I'd graft on a shraeder valve and pressurise the jerry
can using a pumped up old car tyre.
Kind Regards
Steve Ivell
GSTES....90% finished....90% left to do
07971 128842
________________________________
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr
onics.com> on behalf of Mike <mike@nyumba.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2021, 16:54
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Thanks again James, I've had a look and I have seen one of these before but
was told that the pump cylinder connection point was weak, I was also
thinking that the transfer rate might be poor but I have no concrete
evidence that this is the case. I'm interested to know what yours has been
like in use as I would be happy to give it a go.
Cheers
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 08 February 2021 15:37
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Mike,
I actually purchased my hand pump from Flylight at the BMAA Flying Show @
Popham a few years ago. I've just checked their online shop and discovered
that they also sell a 1m extension for their pump. See link below.
https://www.shop.flylight.co.uk/ekmps/shops/140142/jerry-can-fuel-transfer-
h
and-pump---1-meter-extension-pipe-189-p.asp
https://www.shop.flylight.co.uk/ekmps/shops/140142/jerry-can-fuel-transfer-
h
and-pump-1211-p.asp
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 14:27
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Thanks James, I will have a look. I don't mind making a modification.
Cheers
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:32
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Mike,
Have you ever tried the Manual Hand operated Pressure Pump specially
designed for Jerry Cans? tinyurl.com/Hand-Operated-Pressure-Pump
I have one and it works well but for the Europa roof inlet I had to extend
the original pipe.
Regards
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 08 February 2021 12:14
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Bonjour Olivier
Just picking up on something you mentioned in your reply, could you explain
your electric fuel pump set up in some detail as I would be very interested
in something that saves me lifting 20LTR cans. Especially as I have a
classic with the filler on the top of the fuselage!
Thanks
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of olihqt
Sent: 08 February 2021 10:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Blocked Fuel Filters
Hello David,
I recently have a problem during take-off. Powerloss and the motor stop
during the return to airfield.
After inspection of the filters, I was discover some water and particules .
I will replace the in-line filter by gascolator. Filters was fully clean an
d
inspected 15h of flying ago. I use mogas and a electric pump with a filter
to fill the tank. Actually, the hangar is very humide with big temperatures
differences. I have lot of condensation.
friendly
Olivier F-PAKV 564
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