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2. 06:55 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/18/21 (Gary Leinberger)
3. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/18/21 (Pete)
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Subject: | Re: Wheel fairings |
Gents
I have the speed kit fitted to my XS but I dont have any transitions to
the fuselage or wheel fairings. Are these available from Europa or are
they something each builder makes for himself?
Cheers
Arwel
On 18/02/2021 10:32, Kevin wrote:
>
> Frans,
> Reading your improving nose wheel fairing , did you achieve good results ?
> Did you make more than one ? I am currently in need of a nose wheel fairing ,
Also need a full set of leg fairings , including transitioning to fuselage and
main wheel pants / wheel fairing ..
> Im pressed for time so cant make my own at moment , dont see point of making
fresh moulds when , improved ones are sitting on a bench somewhere ..
> Regards
> Kevin
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 19 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 08/19/2012 10:41 PM, craig wrote:
>>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "craig"<craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>>>
>>> Frans, could you elaborate on the "correct length would be shorter" wouldn't
>>> the longer shallower transition
>>> Create less drag and thus make your longer fairing more efficient.
>> There is also something like skin drag. More surface creates more drag. So there
is an optimum somewhere: for a 2D fairing (like for a strut or a wheel leg)
the optimal width to length ratio would be 1:3.7, with the widest point at
about 30% of the length. For a 3D fairing things get a bit more complicated. Shorter
carries a higher penalty than longer, so if in doubt just make it longer.
>>
>> Frans
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Subject: | RE: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/18/21 |
I have wheel pants and fairings (the speed kit) on my Europa Tri-gear High-top
- speed kit built by Bud Yerly. I went from 119 kts to 137 knots (at 1000 ft full
throttle) after putting them on. Talk to Bud - I don't know if he still makes
them but I am very satisfied - and they are easy to work with - one bolt,
two screws and a pin and they are off. After 400 hrs. and 8.5 years only slightly
dinged up (dumb tax for not being more careful rolling the plane out and hit
a door guide in the hanger).
Gary Leinberger
Europa High-top 912 S
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1. 02:33 AM - Re: Wheel fairings (Kevin)
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Time: 02:33:02 AM PST US
From: Kevin <kjburns@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wheel fairings
Frans,
Reading your improving nose wheel fairing , did you achieve good results ?
Did you make more than one ? I am currently in need of a nose wheel fairing , Also
need a full set of leg fairings , including transitioning to fuselage and
main wheel pants / wheel fairing ..
Im pressed for time so cant make my own at moment , dont see point of making fresh
moulds when , improved ones are sitting on a bench somewhere ..
Regards
Kevin
Sent from my iPad
> On 19 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl> wrote:
>
>
>> On 08/19/2012 10:41 PM, craig wrote:
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "craig"<craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>>
>> Frans, could you elaborate on the "correct length would be shorter"
>> wouldn't the longer shallower transition Create less drag and thus
>> make your longer fairing more efficient.
>
> There is also something like skin drag. More surface creates more
> drag. So there
is an optimum somewhere: for a 2D fairing (like for a strut or a wheel leg) the
optimal width to length ratio would be 1:3.7, with the widest point at about
30% of the length. For a 3D fairing things get a bit more complicated. Shorter
carries a higher penalty than longer, so if in doubt just make it longer.
>
> Frans
>
>
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Subject: | Re: RE: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/18/21 |
Impressive Gary! CS prop?
Cheers and thx,
Pete
Mono classic
> On Feb 19, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Gary Leinberger <Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu>
wrote:
>
>
> I have wheel pants and fairings (the speed kit) on my Europa Tri-gear High-top
- speed kit built by Bud Yerly. I went from 119 kts to 137 knots (at 1000 ft
full throttle) after putting them on. Talk to Bud - I don't know if he still
makes them but I am very satisfied - and they are easy to work with - one bolt,
two screws and a pin and they are off. After 400 hrs. and 8.5 years only slightly
dinged up (dumb tax for not being more careful rolling the plane out and
hit a door guide in the hanger).
>
> Gary Leinberger
> Europa High-top 912 S
>
> -----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Europa-List Digest Server
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 2:35 AM
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> Subject: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/18/21
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safe.
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> 1. 02:33 AM - Re: Wheel fairings (Kevin)
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> Time: 02:33:02 AM PST US
> From: Kevin <kjburns@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wheel fairings
>
>
> Frans,
> Reading your improving nose wheel fairing , did you achieve good results ?
> Did you make more than one ? I am currently in need of a nose wheel fairing ,
Also need a full set of leg fairings , including transitioning to fuselage and
main wheel pants / wheel fairing ..
> Im pressed for time so cant make my own at moment , dont see point of making
fresh moulds when , improved ones are sitting on a bench somewhere ..
> Regards
> Kevin
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>> On 19 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 08/19/2012 10:41 PM, craig wrote:
>>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "craig"<craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>>>
>>> Frans, could you elaborate on the "correct length would be shorter"
>>> wouldn't the longer shallower transition Create less drag and thus
>>> make your longer fairing more efficient.
>>
>> There is also something like skin drag. More surface creates more
>> drag. So there
> is an optimum somewhere: for a 2D fairing (like for a strut or a wheel leg) the
optimal width to length ratio would be 1:3.7, with the widest point at about
30% of the length. For a 3D fairing things get a bit more complicated. Shorter
carries a higher penalty than longer, so if in doubt just make it longer.
>>
>> Frans
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