---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/27/21: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:15 AM - Re: Mod 61A (David stranfaer) 2. 01:39 AM - Re: Mod 61A (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 3. 03:07 AM - Re: Advice on Kit Disposal (Rick Moss) 4. 07:30 AM - Re: Mod 61A (Steve Ivell) 5. 08:16 AM - Re: Mod 61A (Pete Jeffers) 6. 08:24 AM - Re: Mod 61A (Alan Twigg) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:02 AM PST US From: David stranfaer Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 61A Stall strips and Smartass works very well Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:36, Kevin Challis wrote: > > > Smartass is all I use. Brilliant. > > Kevin Challis > > >> On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:03, Brian Phillips wrote: >> >> >> I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is justified. >> Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A? >> >> Brian Phillips >> Aus >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:51 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 61A BRIAN, Agreed the Smartass is brilliant and the best use of 200 or so invested in your plane. The Europa stall warner is not worth it as far as I am concerned - it is not very loud; it sounds outside your headset and is difficult to hear if you use noise cancelling ones and it it sounds during landing as you hold off so it is easy to get used to ignoring it. Stall strips are worth fitting for your test flying when it is good to have extra things 'on your side.' but they can be stuck on with some soft glue and removed later when you are comfortable with flying your plane. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2021-02-27 07:35, Kevin Challis wrote: > > Smartass is all I use. Brilliant. > > Kevin Challis > >> On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:03, Brian Phillips wrote: >> >> >> I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and >> am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall >> warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and >> possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and >> complexity is justified. >> Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A? >> >> Brian Phillips >> Aus > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:09 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Advice on Kit Disposal From: "Rick Moss" Hi Dave, Im also in Cheshire, and would certainly like to take a look if possible? Rick Moss 07825 137362 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=500810#500810 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:00 AM PST US From: Steve Ivell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 61A It's not a particularly difficult job to do so I'd do it whilst the wing is open. Kind Regards Steve Ivell Managing Director Pestproof Ltd. 07971 128842 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Brian Phillips Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 6:59:43 AM Subject: Europa-List: Mod 61A I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is justified. Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A? Brian Phillips Aus ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:29 AM PST US From: "Pete Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mod 61A As the representative of our regulating authority in the UK to The Europa Club, I must add to David's learned recommendation to remove stall strakes when testing has been completed that this action would NOT be allowed in the UK, .in fact it could invalidate the UK permit to fly and possibly even the insurance. What you choose to do outside the UK is up to you and YOUR regulating authority. P G Jeffers LAA rep to The Europa Club From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Sent: 27 February 2021 09:39 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 61A BRIAN, Agreed the Smartass is brilliant and the best use of =C2=A3200 or so invested in your plane. The Europa stall warner is not worth it as far as I am concerned - it is not very loud; it sounds outside your headset and is difficult to hear if you use noise cancelling ones and it it sounds during landing as you hold off so it is easy to get used to ignoring it. Stall strips are worth fitting for your test flying when it is good to have extra things =98on your side.=99 but they can be stuck on with some soft glue and removed later when you are comfortable with flying your plane. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2021-02-27 07:35, Kevin Challis wrote: Smartass is all I use. Brilliant. Kevin Challis On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:03, Brian Phillips wrote: I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is justified. Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A? Brian Phillips Aus m/Navigator?Europa-List" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http-= --> _____ AVG logo This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:33 AM PST US From: Alan Twigg Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 61A I fitted stall Warner but added a light. Sent from my iPad > On 27 Feb 2021, at 15:29, Steve Ivell wrote: > > It's not a particularly difficult job to do so I'd do it whilst the wing i s open. > > Kind Regards > > Steve Ivell > Managing Director > Pestproof Ltd. > 07971 128842 > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Brian Phillips > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 6:59:43 AM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Mod 61A > > > I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and > am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning > kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly > install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is > justified. > Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A? > > Brian Phillips > Aus > ========== > st Email Forum - > pa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > ========== > p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > ums.matronics.com > ========== > p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > matronics.com > ========== > p; - List Contribution Web Site - > p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.