---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/29/21: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:42 AM - DOTH Sunday 30 May North Coates (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 2. 07:06 AM - Vents (again) (Erich Trombley) 3. 07:38 AM - De-Coupling Flaps & Outriggers (Erich Trombley) 4. 07:38 AM - De-Coupling Flaps & Outriggers (Erich Trombley) 5. 08:56 AM - Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine (Erich Trombley) 6. 10:15 AM - Lifted aircraft nose. (John Kirkgaard) 7. 02:05 PM - Re: Lifted aircraft nose. (Bud Yerly) 8. 02:09 PM - Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine (timward) 9. 03:54 PM - How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 (Chris Callicott) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:08 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Sunday 30 May North Coates Houlihan and I plan to go to N Coates tomorrow (S side of Humber Estuary) arriving around midday. Acclaimed as a 'great little airfield' with the 'best bacon butty south of the Humber' and a small museum, on Sky Demon. PPR needed. Hope to see some of you there. David Joyce, GXSDJ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:56 AM PST US From: Erich Trombley Subject: Europa-List: Vents (again) Chris, I installed a NACA vent on the lower cowl on the port side (see picture below). The NACA feeds a 2=9D SCAT tube which ties into a plenum that feeds two eye ball vents in the center stack of the instrument pane l. The vents are fully adjustable and work extremely well, even in the hot desert southwest where I live. Erich N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLoc k&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch &utm_content=tag995&promoCode=A23457 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:50 AM PST US From: Erich Trombley Subject: Europa-List: De-Coupling Flaps & Outriggers =EF=BBHello James, I de-coupled my flaps and outriggers during the initial build. That sai d, my outriggers are not stock, rather my own design that retract flush into the wings. I use a linear actuator to raise and lower the outrigge rs which are interlocked with the main gear. For the the flaps I insta lled the tri-gear flap motor which has worked well. The installation ca n be done as a retro fit, albeit with a lot of work. Below is a photo taken at Oshkosh. I had just taken off and was in the process of raising the gear and flaps when the photo was taken. Another second or so and the plane would have been cleaned up. Oh well, it =99s still a great photo. Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol& utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more Officials on San Jose Shooting: 'This Was a Planned Event' http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b251c4bf09051620197st04duc1 11-Year-Old Hit With Felony Charges in $30K Brush Fire http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b251c4e26d151620197st04duc2 Canadian Accused of Entering US With Interesting 'Undeclared' Items http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b251c51293051620197st04duc3 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:50 AM PST US From: Erich Trombley Subject: Europa-List: De-Coupling Flaps & Outriggers =EF=BBHello James, I de-coupled my flaps and outriggers during the initial build. That sai d, my outriggers are not stock, rather my own design that retract flush into the wings. I use a linear actuator to raise and lower the outrigge rs which are interlocked with the main gear. For the the flaps I insta lled the tri-gear flap motor which has worked well. The installation ca n be done as a retro fit, albeit with a lot of work. Below is a photo taken at Oshkosh. I had just taken off and was in the process of raising the gear and flaps when the photo was taken. Another second or so and the plane would have been cleaned up. Oh well, it =99s still a great photo. Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLoc k&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch &utm_content=tag995&promoCode=A23457 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:56:52 AM PST US From: Erich Trombley Subject: Europa-List: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine Hello Chris, You inquired about the utility of the Europa Monowheel as a cross countr y plane, specifically as it pertains to winds. In the eighteenth years of flying my Monowheel all over the United States I have never been grou nded due to high winds other than flying into my home field. I have lan ded the mono in some pretty strong and gusty winds flying in the desert southwest during the summer months. Gusts are certainly the biggest concern with the Europa or any other sma ll plane for that matter. Just last week we had a Piper Arrow crash on landing due to strong gusting winds. The pilot was flying into Las Vega s from Southern California. The plane was totaled. See photo below. I landed in similar conditions a couple of months ago. On the first lan ding I had just touched down when I was launched back into the air by a gust. The wind was 18 kts gusting 30 kts with a 50 degree crosswind fro m the right. Rather than try and save the landing I did a go-around. The tower ask me to state my intentions. I told him I would give it on e more try before heading to another field in the area with more favorab le wind conditions. Las Vegas is in a bowl with mountains surrounding the valley. Fortunately, we have a couple of airports on the other side of the mountains which make for good alternates which I have availed my self to on occasion (especially if the wife is on board as she hates the bumps). I came around for the second attempt and fought it all the way down to t he ground. The gusts were horrendous. I was jockeying the power like a fighter pilot making a carrier landing. I was carrying quite a bit of power when I crossed the threshold. Flying just a foot or so off the ru nway I chopped the power and set the plane down. I am sure it wasn =99t pretty but I did get her landed. The tower commented on the gusty conditions and I responded, =9CI think I found the limits of the plane.=9D I have landed in steady winds up to 35 kts with varying crosswinds. I l and using the crab technique, kicking out the tail and lining up with th e centerline during the flare and aileron to control drift. If I can st raighten out the plane with the rudder on short final I will attempt the landing. If not, then I am landing at another airport. BTW, I make al l my landings with full flaps regardless of the winds. I do, however, t ake off with partial flaps though. The Europa is a marvelous cross country plane and I wouldn=99t hes itate taking it anywhere. That=99s not to say I don=99t ta ke the weather and winds into consideration, I do. In fact, I have have made plenty of unplanned layovers due to weather. It=99s the old adage, =9CIf you fly by air, have time to spare.=9D The Eu ropa has its limitations just like any other small plane. Plan accordi ngly. Blue skies, Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLoc k&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch &utm_content=tag995&promoCode=A23457 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:53 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Lifted aircraft nose. From: "John Kirkgaard" I have found that the previous owner of my Canadian imported Europa XS have extended the vertical nose wheel spindle 50 mm and installed a 50 mm spacer. That means that the nose is lifted 50 mm up leaving the plane in a more nose up attitude when it's on the ground, and off course the wings in a higher AOA. It's probable done to give more prop clearance for the 68" Woodcomp 3000/2 propeller. Have anyone of you had experience with the behavior of the aircraft during take off and landing with the nose gear lowered this 50 mm. I can't really see if it matters or not. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502102#502102 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:08 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Lifted aircraft nose. Ah the longer prop is better modification. If you retain the Woodcomp at 68 inches you will cut off the back of wheel pant if you pull it backwards and run the prop/engine on the ground. By adding a 50mm to the spindle and a spacer, he may have changed the geome try of the antifriction plate to the horizon. This angles the spindle back and changes the castor angle and the shimmy dampener is slightly affected. You will just have to flare completely to prevent banging down on the nosew heel first. With full flaps and attempting to stick the plane on to the ru nway above a normal landing speed of 45-50 KIAS you will most likely hit th e nose wheel first and porpoise. Not good for any aircraft. >From an inspection standpoint I would say pay attention to the shimmy dampe ner plastic plate for uneven wear, and your bolts going through the gear le g for looseness and elongation. IF the bolts loosen, remove them, and chec k the holes have not become elongated or the bolts necked down from wear. Increasing the ground clearance by jacking the nose up is normally not done . Today=92s composite propeller manufacturers gain very little in increasi ng the blade length beyond 67 inches on a Rotax except for STOL operations. The loss in cruise speed between a 68 to 70 inch Whirlwind and a 64 inch Whirlwind is about one knot at cruise and takeoff distance is not affected in the constant speed prop as the added pitch accelerates about equally. I n STOL aircraft, a longer blade means a bit shorter takeoff but absolutely a very much lower top end. In a glass airplane, like the Europa or Lancair 235, cruise speed difference between a 68 and 64 doesn=92t matter. It is the pitch/twist of the blade on a fixed pitch and on a constant speed prop, the pitch is in the hub. See my website for selecting a propeller for you r Rotax engine. Just my opinion, Bud Yerly -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of John Kirkgaard Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 1:15 PM Subject: Europa-List: Lifted aircraft nose. com> I have found that the previous owner of my Canadian imported Europa XS have extended the vertical nose wheel spindle 50 mm and installed a 50 mm s pacer. That means that the nose is lifted 50 mm up leaving the plane in a more nose up attitude when it's on the ground, and off course the wings in a hig her AOA. It's probable done to give more prop clearance for the 68" Woodcomp 3000/2 propeller. Have anyone of you had experience with the behavior of the aircraft during take off and landing with the nose gear lowered this 50 mm. I can't really see if it matters or not. 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I can stand by everything you have said. Meet up again next Oshkosh, if planned to go ahead, and I have been vaccinat ed! Cheers, Tim Sent from my iPad Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz 021 0640221 > On 30/05/2021, at 4:10 AM, Erich Trombley wrote: > > =EF=BBHello Chris, > > You inquired about the utility of the Europa Monowheel as a cross country p lane, specifically as it pertains to winds. In the eighteenth years of flyi ng my Monowheel all over the United States I have never been grounded due to high winds other than flying into my home field. I have landed the mono in some pretty strong and gusty winds flying in the desert southwest during th e summer months. > > Gusts are certainly the biggest concern with the Europa or any other small plane for that matter. Just last week we had a Piper Arrow crash on landin g due to strong gusting winds. The pilot was flying into Las Vegas from Sou thern California. The plane was totaled. See photo below. > > I landed in similar conditions a couple of months ago. On the first landi ng I had just touched down when I was launched back into the air by a gust. The wind was 18 kts gusting 30 kts with a 50 degree crosswind from the righ t. Rather than try and save the landing I did a go-around. The tower ask me to state my intentions. I told him I would give it one more try before h eading to another field in the area with more favorable wind conditions. L as Vegas is in a bowl with mountains surrounding the valley. Fortunately, w e have a couple of airports on the other side of the mountains which make fo r good alternates which I have availed myself to on occasion (especially if t he wife is on board as she hates the bumps). > > I came around for the second attempt and fought it all the way down to the ground. The gusts were horrendous. I was jockeying the power like a fight er pilot making a carrier landing. I was carrying quite a bit of power when I crossed the threshold. Flying just a foot or so off the runway I chopped the power and set the plane down. I am sure it wasn=99t pretty but I did get her landed. The tower commented on the gusty conditions and I resp onded, =9CI think I found the limits of the plane.=9D > > I have landed in steady winds up to 35 kts with varying crosswinds. I lan d using the crab technique, kicking out the tail and lining up with the cent erline during the flare and aileron to control drift. If I can straighten o ut the plane with the rudder on short final I will attempt the landing. If n ot, then I am landing at another airport. BTW, I make all my landings with f ull flaps regardless of the winds. I do, however, take off with partial fla ps though. > > The Europa is a marvelous cross country plane and I wouldn=99t hesit ate taking it anywhere. That=99s not to say I don=99t take the weather and winds into consideration, I do. In fact, I have have made plen ty of unplanned layovers due to weather. It=99s the old adage, =9CIf you fly by air, have time to spare.=9D The Europa has its limit ations just like any other small plane. Plan accordingly. > > Blue skies, > Erich Trombley > N28ET Classic Mono 914 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Choose to be safer online. > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock& utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_c ontent=tag995&promoCode=A23457 > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:13 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 From: "Chris Callicott" Hi, l I need to replace my electric flap actuator, ie both motor and lead screw assembly. However, the mounting bracket FL26 is bonded and bolted to the fuselage floor (Build manual 28T). Removal of the AN4-23 bolt is not possible owing to location of the baggage bay supporting structure. Please advise how to remove the existing actuator. 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