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1. 07:55 AM - Re: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 (Bud Yerly)
2. 10:53 AM - Re: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 (Chris Callicott)
3. 12:54 PM - Re: Lifted aircraft nose. (John Kirkgaard)
4. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: Lifted aircraft nose. (Bud Yerly)
5. 01:48 PM - Re: Re: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 (Bud Yerly)
6. 02:25 PM - Re: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 (Chris Callicott)
7. 04:14 PM - Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine (Erich Trombley)
8. 06:28 PM - Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine (Pete)
9. 07:37 PM - Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine (Kingsley Hurst)
10. 07:54 PM - Airfoil Profiles (Area-51)
11. 08:38 PM - Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine (Kingsley Hurst)
12. 08:59 PM - Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine (timward)
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Subject: | How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 |
Chris,
In the XS you probably have batteries, or ELT equipment and of course rudde
r cables nearby the servo floor attachment.
It is highly likely that no provision or access panel has been made over th
e flap actuator in the baggage bay floor or through the floor supports.
This is a travesty of failure to plan for future maintenance and proper eng
ineering I=92m afraid, and is done for expedient construction in the manual
.
Of course in some countries this may be a major modification and one has to
go to the approving authority or be approved by an inspector. Do so.
In a stock XS:
Remove the cotter pin and nut. Use a cloth or something as a dam to preven
t loss of the spacers/washers when ready to pull the AN 4-23 bolt. Failure
to do this may result in hours of hunting for parts dropped.
Procure an angle drill and small hole saw or similar to simply bore through
the wood support to gain sufficient clearance to remove the bolt outboard.
Disconnect the linear drive actuator from the flap bar and unplug/disconnec
t the wiring.
Again, standing on one=92s head in the baggage bay, reach in and undo the b
olt connecting the actuator to the flap cross bar using appropriate sockets
and extension, mirrors, lights and patience.
I prefer to do this with the wings off and use an assistant to peer through
the flap tube arcs in the fuselage side and hand me tools.
Installation is as frustrating as removal.
I always make a plug for my flap drive for troubleshooting and maintenance.
These linear drives rarely fail, but can.
"If you make it convenient to maintain, easy to access, it seems it will ne
ver fail."
Below is how I do my baggage bay floors to assure access. Normally a 4 inc
h hole in the floor and the hole in one of the ribs is done during construc
tion only as needed to gain access and provide a viewing hole.
Ensure your country modification procedures are followed. In the US I simp
ly made sure I had access. If you make a hole in an airplane or support, o
ne must assure the reinforcement is as structurally sound.
Bud Yerly
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onics.com> On Behalf Of Chris Callicott
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:54 PM
Subject: Europa-List: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26
et.com<mailto:c.callicott1@btinternet.com>>
Hi,
l I need to replace my electric flap actuator, ie both motor and lead screw
assembly. However, the mounting bracket FL26 is bonded and bolted to the f
uselage floor (Build manual 28T). Removal of the AN4-23 bolt is not possibl
e owing to location of the baggage bay supporting structure. Please advise
how to remove the existing actuator.
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Subject: | Re: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 |
Hi Bud,
Thanks for your response. I concur with your views.
I am on the final lap of a 2 year restoration when the actuator failed on a shakedown
flight.
I may have to drill a hole in one of the baggage bay support panels in order to
remove the AN4-23 bolt from FL26. This may allow me to change to motor and retain
the existing lead screw.
If I can access the other end of the lead screw with the wings and flaps removed
from the fuselage, I will swap out the complete actuator. I would appreciate
your view on whether or not this is possible.
Many thanks for your notes, published on the Europa Club site. They have already
been hugely helpful.
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Subject: | Re: Lifted aircraft nose. |
Thanks to you Bud, for your reply.
I checked the bolts through the nose leg a while ago, and found the bolts to
be damaged and the holes elongated.
I have enlarged the bolt holes reamed them to match some new shoulder
bolts and making sure that there is a very tight fit.
The nylon friction disc seems to be worn even.
Seems like it is possible to make acceptable landings if I just take care.
Turning the nose wheel 180 degree will result in a distance of 80 mm between
the prop tip and the top of the wheel spat.
Not much space for movement if I lover it 50 mm, but on the other hand, if I turn
the the wheel backwards I may not be in a situation where the plane is
moving up and down.
During start I could imagine, that the plane will try to get into the air, despite
insufficient air speed. Could that be the situation?
Regards John Kirkegaard
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Subject: | Re: Lifted aircraft nose. |
Well John sounds like you have it under control.
As I said, it is important to make sure you flare it out to preserve the nose gear
from hitting first.
As far as cutting the nosewheel pant when turned 180 degrees with the prop, if
doing a static ground run at full power the nose can compress the nose down (more
so with the bungee rather than the springs) and perhaps reduce the clearance
between prop and pant.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
On Behalf Of John Kirkgaard
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 3:54 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Lifted aircraft nose.
Thanks to you Bud, for your reply.
I checked the bolts through the nose leg a while ago, and found the bolts to
be damaged and the holes elongated.
I have enlarged the bolt holes reamed them to match some new shoulder
bolts and making sure that there is a very tight fit.
The nylon friction disc seems to be worn even.
Seems like it is possible to make acceptable landings if I just take care.
Turning the nose wheel 180 degree will result in a distance of 80 mm between
the prop tip and the top of the wheel spat.
Not much space for movement if I lover it 50 mm, but on the other hand, if I turn
the the wheel backwards I may not be in a situation where the plane is
moving up and down.
During start I could imagine, that the plane will try to get into the air, despite
insufficient air speed. Could that be the situation?
Regards John Kirkegaard
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Subject: | Re: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 |
Chris,
I have not changed out the motor in the XS actuator I'm afraid. The manufacturers
name is on the motor normally and if you can read it, they can supply the
info.
On my Motion industries linear actuator I bought a kit from them with new brushes
and it was fairly easy to repair.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
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On Behalf Of Chris Callicott
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 1:54 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26
Hi Bud,
Thanks for your response. I concur with your views.
I am on the final lap of a 2 year restoration when the actuator failed on a shakedown
flight.
I may have to drill a hole in one of the baggage bay support panels in order to
remove the AN4-23 bolt from FL26. This may allow me to change to motor and retain
the existing lead screw.
If I can access the other end of the lead screw with the wings and flaps removed
from the fuselage, I will swap out the complete actuator. I would appreciate
your view on whether or not this is possible.
Many thanks for your notes, published on the Europa Club site. They have already
been hugely helpful.
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: How to disconnect flap actuator from FL26 |
Thanks once again Bud.
I will follow up on a repair kit.
BW, Chris
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Subject: | Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine |
Hi Tim,
Good to hear from you. Yes, lets meet up at OSH. So looking forward to the event.
I flew to SNF this year which was a great primer for OSH.
Cheers,
Erich
>
> Time: 02:09:34 PM PST US
> From: timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine
>
> Great comments Erich. I can stand by everything you have said.
> Meet up again next Oshkosh, if planned to go ahead, and I have been vaccinat
> ed!
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch, 8052
> New Zealand.
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
> 021 0640221
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Subject: | Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine |
Lucky Guys! Ill be watching online, as borders still closed and no second vax
before aug. ill be there in spirit tho! Have a blast!
PeteZ :)
> On May 30, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Good to hear from you. Yes, lets meet up at OSH. So looking forward to the
event. I flew to SNF this year which was a great primer for OSH.
>
> Cheers,
> Erich
>
>>
>> Time: 02:09:34 PM PST US
>> From: timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine
>>
>> Great comments Erich. I can stand by everything you have said.
>> Meet up again next Oshkosh, if planned to go ahead, and I have been vaccinat
>> ed!
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch, 8052
>> New Zealand.
>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>> 021 0640221
>
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Subject: | Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine |
Sent from my iPhone
> On 31 May 2021, at 9:21 am, Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Good to hear from you. Yes, lets meet up at OSH. So looking forward to the
event. I flew to SNF this year which was a great primer for OSH.
>
> Cheers,
> Erich
>
>>
>> Time: 02:09:34 PM PST US
>> From: timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine
>>
>> Great comments Erich. I can stand by everything you have said.
>> Meet up again next Oshkosh, if planned to go ahead, and I have been vaccinat
>> ed!
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch, 8052
>> New Zealand.
>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>> 021 0640221
>
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Subject: | Airfoil Profiles |
Can anyone on the forum tell me what main wing and tailplane profiles are used
on the Europa? Thanks in advance...
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Subject: | Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine |
Sorry about the empty email ..... dog jerked on the lead and swish, away it went
prematurely.
Re Oshkosh ..... are you people talking this year?
There is no chance of my making it this year ..... if I could get out of the country
it is doubtful I would get back home again.
My sons and I do however plan to attend next year 2022 all things being equal so
I hope there will still be some Europhiles around then. It is on my bucket list
to attend an Engineering meeting!
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz.
Do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
> On 31 May 2021, at 9:21 am, Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Good to hear from you. Yes, lets meet up at OSH. So looking forward to the
event. I flew to SNF this year which was a great primer for OSH.
>
> Cheers,
> Erich
>
>>
>> Time: 02:09:34 PM PST US
>> From: timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine
>>
>> Great comments Erich. I can stand by everything you have said.
>> Meet up again next Oshkosh, if planned to go ahead, and I have been vaccinat
>> ed!
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch, 8052
>> New Zealand.
>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>> 021 0640221
>
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Subject: | Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine |
Hi Kingsley,
I was only trying to be positive about going to Oshkosh this year as you are
right, it does sound implausible. We are scheduled to have the vaccination i
n August but delays are now likely. I will only go if vaccinated. 2022 sound
s great.
Cheers,
Tim
Sent from my iPad
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
021 0640221
> On 31/05/2021, at 3:45 PM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wrote
:
>
net.com.au>
>
> Sorry about the empty email ..... dog jerked on the lead and swish, away i
t went prematurely. =F0=9F=98=9F
>
> Re Oshkosh ..... are you people talking this year?
>
> There is no chance of my making it this year ..... if I could get out of t
he country it is doubtful I would get back home again.
>
> My sons and I do however plan to attend next year 2022 all things being eq
ual so I hope there will still be some Europhiles around then. It is on my b
ucket list to attend an Engineering meeting!
>
> Cheers
> Kingsley in Oz.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 31 May 2021, at 9:21 am, Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrot
e:
>>
y@juno.com>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Good to hear from you. Yes, let=99s meet up at OSH. So looking fo
rward to the event. I flew to SNF this year which was a great primer for OS
H.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Erich
>>
>>>
>>> Time: 02:09:34 PM PST US
>>> From: timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machin
e
>>>
>>> Great comments Erich. I can stand by everything you have said.
>>> Meet up again next Oshkosh, if planned to go ahead, and I have been vacc
inat
>>> ed!
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> Tim Ward
>>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>>> Fendalton,
>>> Christchurch, 8052
>>> New Zealand.
>>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>>> 021 0640221
>>
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