---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/04/21: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:49 AM - Re: Flap limiting speed 83 kts exceeded (JonathanMilbank) 2. 02:23 PM - Re: Re: Flap limiting speed 83 kts exceeded () 3. 02:38 PM - Front Wheel Fairing (BobD) 4. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Airfoil Profiles () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:14 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flap limiting speed 83 kts exceeded From: "JonathanMilbank" Paul, You're dead right. I logged into the Europa Club's website and found on page 5-6 under Pre-take off check list (vital actions) this: Flaps Check 18 down. On page 2-1 under Limitations, all that is shown for flaps is Max. Flap extension speed (VFE ) 83kts. However my math abilities don't extend to calculating a Vfe for 18 degrees extension, but thanks anyway for your involvement. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502241#502241 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:23:45 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Flap limiting speed 83 kts exceeded Hi! All. I recall that flap setting for take off on trike G-PTAG was 18Deg. Regards Bob Harrison. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Paul M 383 Sent: 04 June 2021 02:16 Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flap limiting speed 83 kts exceeded --> JonathanMilbank wrote: > ...create an intermediate 18 degree detent notch, which happens to lie approximately halfway along the slot... > > Why Neville specified 18 degrees is something I never questioned, ... if ... different Vfe speeds for varying flap settings, then ... Vfe for 18 degrees would be considerably higher than 83 knots; perhaps a lot closer to 100 knots. > > That was a long-winded explanation where I could simply have replied 'as well as'. Yes it was (:-D), but it answers my question, thanks. Might 18 be the takeoff flap setting for a Trigear? I don't have one but you do and I guess it's in the Owner's Manual? This might then answer your question (on Vfe for 18) ... if you read Bud's reply and do some math(s). HTH P G-PLPM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502236#502236 This email has been scanned by BullGuard antivirus protection. For more info visit www.bullguard.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:06 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Front Wheel Fairing From: "BobD" Does anyone have the front half of the TriGear front wheel fairing they would be willing to let me buy ? If so, please send me a PM with details Cheers -------- Bob Dawson Europa XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ || Dynon Skyview || PilotAware || SmartAss3 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502244#502244 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:29 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Airfoil Profiles Hi! All, Just out of interest Frans Veldman and Iloona Koostra now have a catamaran and are in the southern middle of the Pacific. They can be hooked up with on Utube under the cat name of zwerfcat nl . she has a very pleasant video for you to scan . Unfortunately I am not U-Tube familiar so when the U tube buffs find a proper kink please advise and return the favour. Regards Bob Harrison Ex G-PTAG . From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Sent: 03 June 2021 17:55 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Airfoil Profiles Frans bought a yacht and is sailing around the world last I heard. We haven't talked since we collaborated on our cooling drag reduction project years ago.. You can catch him on Twitter from time to time. I believe that his fairings were provided by Fred if I'm not mistaken. - Paul On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 2:20 AM John Wighton > wrote: > When we scanned the Europa we used paint that was washed off afterwards. It is commonly used by street artists. An initial attempt without paint led to big gaps in the cloud data. I like the root fairings, they look a bit like Frans Veldman=99s who was highly active in Europa modifications. Whatever happened to Frans? The tape is probably a better idea, as it limits the data - although there are some coordinates for the sections along the wing - we used them years ago in xfoil. 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