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1. 03:53 AM - Auto pilot pitch control. (Kingsley Hurst)
2. 08:24 AM - Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine (n7188u)
3. 08:26 AM - Re: XS Tail wheel assembly (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
4. 09:14 AM - Re: Auto pilot pitch control. (William Daniell)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: Auto pilot pitch control. (Paul McAllister)
6. 05:07 PM - Re: Auto pilot pitch control. (Kingsley Hurst)
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| Subject: | Auto pilot pitch control. |
I seem to remember at some time seeing where a Europa builder put the auto pilot
pitch servo on the floor in front of the control column with the push rod connected
to the elevator circuit via the bottom of the control column mechanism.
I would very much appreciate it if someone can advise me who incorporated this
idea please or point me in the direction of photos of same.
Was it Ira Rampil by any chance?
Many thanks
Kingsley in Oz.
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Monowheel - Cross Country Flying Machine |
Erich and others,
Thanks for your input on the flap position on landing. Excellent info and it really
makes me realize that I just need to learn to land the mono. so for now I
will not think about any mods until I build more time in it.
I really wanted to do OSH but my father is falling ill and need to use vacation
time to go visit him (he's in Spain). So no OSH this year. In a way I think I
want to build a little more time in it before going there anyway. I am a big
fan of Triple Tree and will really try to go there if I can. It happens in September.
A little closer and can be done with minimal time off from work. That's
a nice grass runway for the mono!
Chris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502291#502291
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| Subject: | Re: XS Tail wheel assembly |
Phil, Sorry to disagree with Fred but I feel strongly you do not want to
limit tailwheel travel to 30 degrees. I too have the Singleton mod and
as you can see it allows the tail wheel to turn around 80 degrees in
either direction. This is a great help in manoeuvring either whilst
taxying or pulling the plane around in the hangar. Experienced mono
pilots can almost pivot on the main wheel with a judicious use of
throttle and brake.(Emphasis on judicious - overdo it and you go A over
T and break the prop). I have no figures for it but I would be very
surprised if you need as much as 20 degree tail wheel turn in the
process of landing or T/O, where the emphasis should be on sticking
meticulously to a straight line, correcting any deviation sooner rather
than later. I understand the function of the stop is to prevent the
wheel twisting beyond 90 degrees when the rudder cables would be crossed
and rudder action would make things worse rather than going back to
neutral position.
Regards, David Joyce GXSDJ
On 2021-06-08 06:19, Fred Klein wrote:
> Phil...While I recognize you as a highly experienced Europa builder, I
> pass along two modifications to the stock Europa tailwheel which have
> been recommended to me by others.
>
> First, add a stop to prevent the tailwheel from rotating more than
> approximately 30 deg in either direction...shown below is a half inch
> thick aluminum stop...mine came to me as part of the Singleton tail
> wheel mod.
>
> Second, I cut off the ears of the stock fitting and made up a bracket
> from 1/8" 4130 plate configured to a design suggested to me by William
> Mills, RIP, which has two beneficial attributes: there are 3 sets of
> holes which allow for adjusting the sensitivity of rudder pedal
> inputs...(the outermost set of holes for the novice and allowing for
> less sensitivity, and by using the innermost sets of holes the result
> is less sensitivity and decreased turning radius)... and the sets of
> holes are further forward than the holes in the stock "ears" so that
> string lines dropping thru the holes are perfectly aligned with the
> vertical tail wheel pivot rod which decreases the strain on the entire
> assembly.
>
> PS: Ignore the bronze split-bolts shown in lieu of the second set of
> nicopress sleeves.
>
>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 2:27 AM, flyingphil2 <philipjtiller@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for all the parts to make a complete XS tailwheel
>> assembly.
>> I ideally want new, unused parts - does anyone have any bits lying
>> around that they'd like to sell?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Phil
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502262#502262
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| Subject: | Re: Auto pilot pitch control. |
Kingsley
I put my lateral servo on the cockpit floor and the pitch in the rear
fuse...if you want pics let me know
if that helps
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+1 786 878 0246
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 6:55 AM Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
wrote:
> kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
>
> I seem to remember at some time seeing where a Europa builder put the auto
> pilot pitch servo on the floor in front of the control column with the push
> rod connected to the elevator circuit via the bottom of the control column
> mechanism.
>
> I would very much appreciate it if someone can advise me who incorporated
> this idea please or point me in the direction of photos of same.
>
> Was it Ira Rampil by any chance?
>
> Many thanks
> Kingsley in Oz.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Auto pilot pitch control. |
That was probably me. I'll see if I still have some photos of what I did.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 5:55 AM Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
wrote:
> kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
>
> I seem to remember at some time seeing where a Europa builder put the auto
> pilot pitch servo on the floor in front of the control column with the push
> rod connected to the elevator circuit via the bottom of the control column
> mechanism.
>
> I would very much appreciate it if someone can advise me who incorporated
> this idea please or point me in the direction of photos of same.
>
> Was it Ira Rampil by any chance?
>
> Many thanks
> Kingsley in Oz.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Auto pilot pitch control. |
Thank you Will but it is specifically the forward mounted pitch control serv
o I wish to see again if I can find it.
Best regards
Kingsley
Do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
> On 9 Jun 2021, at 2:22 am, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> w
rote:
>
> =EF=BB
> Kingsley
> I put my lateral servo on the cockpit floor and the pitch in the rear fuse
...if you want pics let me know
> if that helps
> Will
> William Daniell
> LONGPORT
> +1 786 878 0246
>
>
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 6:55 AM Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> w
rote:
au>
>>
>> I seem to remember at some time seeing where a Europa builder put the aut
o pilot pitch servo on the floor in front of the control column with the pus
h rod connected to the elevator circuit via the bottom of the control column
mechanism.
>>
>> I would very much appreciate it if someone can advise me who incorporated
this idea please or point me in the direction of photos of same.
>>
>> Was it Ira Rampil by any chance?
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Kingsley in Oz.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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