---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/15/21: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Flap operation - trigear (flyingphil2) 2. 03:32 AM - Tri-gear main legs - corrosion (flyingphil2) 3. 08:13 AM - Re: Flap operation - trigear (D McFadyean) 4. 05:12 PM - 914 draining coolant and changing coolant lines (Jerry Rehn) 5. 05:40 PM - Re: Flap operation - trigear (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:37 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Flap operation - trigear From: "flyingphil2" A quick question for tri-gear owners. Do you lower your flaps by holding your finger down on the flap switch until the motor drives the flaps to the correct setting? Or Do you have a clever switch that you can just press and let go and the motor drives the flaps to half flap, followed by another press to drive the flaps to full flap? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502374#502374 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:28 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear main legs - corrosion From: "flyingphil2" Has anyone had corrosion on their tri-gear main legs? If so, how much is too much? If there was some pitting after the corrosion was cleaned off, could this be ground away or would the leg be scrap? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502375#502375 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:46 AM PST US From: D McFadyean Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap operation - trigear The former. On a related question, has anyone replaced their electric flaps with a manual system (but not the mono system of levers and rods)? The Motion Systems servo requires increasing amounts of commutator cleaning (now down to about 10 hour cycles, which is too much, and has been a problem on RVs too). Duncan McF. > On 15 June 2021 at 11:30 flyingphil2 wrote: > > > > A quick question for tri-gear owners. > > Do you lower your flaps by holding your finger down on the flap switch until the motor drives the flaps to the correct setting? > > Or > > Do you have a clever switch that you can just press and let go and the motor drives the flaps to half flap, followed by another press to drive the flaps to full flap? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502374#502374 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:02 PM PST US From: Jerry Rehn Subject: Europa-List: 914 draining coolant and changing coolant lines Hello All Im due for refreshed coolant lines and of course draining old coolant. Its been some time since done and at best I remember it was very messy draining the coolant. Was wondering what others have done to minimize the mess? Any clues and techniques would be much appreciated! Thanks Jerry Europa XS 914 Mono Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:04 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Flap operation - trigear Duncan, Mechanically, I'm not a fan of the manual flap bar. I also do not like a s low actuator. Attached is my aircraft flap drive modification. Of course, you will need modification approvals and do some research on your own. The Motion Indust ries unit I use is fast, powerful, but I had to work with them to get the r ear support hole the way I wanted it so I could use the basic Europa bracke t to attach it to the floor. I also had to cross drill the head to prevent it from unscrewing while being careful not to let Motion know it is in an airplane, they don't want to sell one even if it is experimental aircraft. Ah litigation. Anyway, I am happy with this type of fast servo. Perhaps a bit of looking you may find one. It is easier running wires than making a flap bar with all its supports and linkages. Although it would be a fun e xercise. Good Luck. Bud Yerly -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of D McFadyean Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap operation - trigear The former. On a related question, has anyone replaced their electric flaps with a manu al system (but not the mono system of levers and rods)? The Motion Systems servo requires increasing amounts of commutator cleaning (now down to about 10 hour cycles, which is too much, and has been a probl em on RVs too). 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