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1. 01:09 AM - Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment (Ron Peach)
2. 02:58 AM - Re: Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment (D McFadyean)
3. 06:19 AM - Re: Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment (Bud Yerly)
4. 10:36 AM - Fly In Circus July 17 (h&jeuropa)
5. 12:06 PM - Re: Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment (Ron Peach)
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| Subject: | Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment |
Hi,
Anyone had any issues with the tail spring attachment bolt fixing on the Europa
classic?
The laid up ply and steel plate on mine appear to have been crushed ever so slightly
but enough for me want to fix immediately. Can't feel any movement but when
i grab the spring and apply lateral pressure it creaks, indicating some movement
even if I can't feel it.
I read somewhere about a reinforcement fix but can't find the mod on the LAA or
Europa club site.
Any help appreciated.
Regards
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment |
I've had a bolt break, due to torsional loads in the spring during taxiing turns,
exacerbated by some loosening of the captive nut. A number of mods have been
done to provide an additional steel plate on top of the spring (and somehow
connected at its ends with the lower steel plate) in order to divert the torsional
loads from the bolt.
Duncan McF.
> On 25 June 2021 at 09:08 Ron Peach <ronpeach1@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Anyone had any issues with the tail spring attachment bolt fixing on the Europa
classic?
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> The laid up ply and steel plate on mine appear to have been crushed ever so slightly
but enough for me want to fix immediately. Can't feel any movement but
when i grab the spring and apply lateral pressure it creaks, indicating some
movement even if I can't feel it.
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> I read somewhere about a reinforcement fix but can't find the mod on the LAA
or Europa club site.
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> Any help appreciated.
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> Regards
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> Ron
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| Subject: | Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment |
Ron,
Many years ago I suggested a modification and all mono's that have gone thr
ough my shop have been modified. It allows a bit more security of the bolt
, prevents bending and crushing of the glass/ply support. The top of the b
olt could bend if your metal sleeve is sloppy. So far, my clients have all
held up. I'm afraid it has been many months since I've done a tail spring
mod. I've attached a drawing that may be some help.
Essentially, I install my spring retaining bolt considerably different. Re
view Mod 43. My additions are to hollow the skin out and lay reinforcing p
lys of bid on the belly. I add a 5/16 nominal washer to the recess.
I then cut and fashion a chrome moly tube reaching the length of the bolt f
rom the metal plate down to the washer in the skin. The 7/16 0.065 wall tu
be I used had to be reamed out for the 5/16 or 0.3125 inch bolt seemed to b
e firm enough to support full bolt torque but I=92m sure that a 0.049 wall
is sufficient as the torque on the bolt is about 100-140 inch pounds which
is not terribly high.
Bud Yerly
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onics.com> On Behalf Of Ron Peach
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 4:09 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment
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Hi,
Anyone had any issues with the tail spring attachment bolt fixing on the Eu
ropa classic?
The laid up ply and steel plate on mine appear to have been crushed ever so
slightly but enough for me want to fix immediately. Can't feel any movemen
t but when i grab the spring and apply lateral pressure it creaks, indicati
ng some movement even if I can't feel it.
I read somewhere about a reinforcement fix but can't find the mod on the LA
A or Europa club site.
Any help appreciated.
Regards
Ron
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| Subject: | Fly In Circus July 17 |
Fly-In Circus! Peru, Indiana is where many circuses wintered over years ago. Performers established homes there and their descendants (all kids 7-17 yrs old) put on this performance each summer. The website for more info and tickets is https://www.perucircus.com/. Circus week is July 17-24.
We plan to attend Saturday, July 17 at 2 PM. We discovered this gem a couple of
years ago and have wanted to return for the performance. We have reserved the
Peru (I76) airport courtesy car for Saturday afternoon beginning at 1 PM. Let
us know if you want to share the car. Come join us.
Jim & Heather
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Classic Tail Spring Attachment |
Duncan, Bud,
Thanks very much for responding. Bud your mod makes sense but at this stage I'm
looking for an easier solution. I am currently planning to replace the original
steel plate with an exact copy, re-bonding it to the ply/bid platform and putting
in a new bolt (I found indications of light corrosion on the bolt at the
point that it passed through the steel plate).
In Graham Singletons mod (PFA 10371) he mentions using 1/8th sheet bent to form
a 1/2" by 1" angle to 'reduce the tendency to bend and crush the plywood/bid
reinforcement'. With no other detail, I presume that this would go on top of the
steel plate with the bolt passing through it as well. I can see how this mini
girder could help spread the load.
I also read in a report (of a tail wheel failure) that six or seven mono owners
had fitted a mod that comprised of two light alloy plates bonded to either side
of a block of Paxolin. This was claimed to provided additional lateral support
for the bolt. The report stated that this mod was approved by the PFA but
I can't find any evidence of that.
Anyone else out there with knowledge?
Regards
Ron
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