Europa-List Digest Archive

Wed 08/04/21


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 01:24 AM - Re: mono brake puck (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     2. 05:39 AM - Re: Expired Araldite test results (William Daniell)
     3. 05:51 AM - Re: mono brake puck (Bud Yerly)
     4. 09:50 AM - Re: mono brake puck (fklein@orcasonline.com)
     5. 09:53 AM - Re: mono brake puck (Fred Klein)
     6. 03:36 PM - Re: mono brake puck (Jerry Rehn)
     7. 04:51 PM - Re: mono brake puck (Bud Yerly)
     8. 07:49 PM - Re: mono brake puck (fklein@orcasonline.com)
     9. 10:11 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/28/21 (Max Earnshaw)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:24:11 AM PST US
    From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
    Subject: Re: mono brake puck
    Fred, if you have some spare $$$s it's worth considering the Beringer wheel and brake system, which is lighter and a much superior braking system and a tubeless tyre. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2021-08-04 02:24, fklein@orcasonline.com wrote: > <fklein@orcasonline.com> > > Gentlemen, > > I'm hoping to source a mono brake puck here in the US, perhaps from > someone who's converted to trigger. > > Please let me know if anyone might have one for sale, > > Fred > A194


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    Time: 05:39:23 AM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Expired Araldite test results
    Interesting. I used old araldite for non structural stuff including bonding a handle on a spaghetti sieve which was regularly put in the dishwasher. I expected the heat and humidity to overcome the joint. Not a bit of it. The bond lasted longer than the seive. William Daniell +1 786 878 0246 On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 19:30 Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@gmail.com> wrote: > I tested my 20 year old Araldite 420 and found it to be almost the same > shear strength as the new stuff. I thought I'd share the results with you. > You can find the details here: > > > http://sarangan.org/aviation/2021/08/03/lap-shear-test-results-of-araldite-epibond-420-aerospace-epoxy/ > >


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    Time: 05:51:13 AM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: mono brake puck
    Fred, I've had good luck simply buffing out the pucks and the caliper. It's just aluminum, and rarely does the puck get damaged. It does get a bit rough f rom corrosion. A freshly smoothed caliper and puck with a new O ring seems to work well. I use a cotton wheel on a Dremel type tool and some red jew elers rouge after a sanding with 1000 grit paper to shine it up. O rings a re tough to find. Especially the square edged ones. I'm no help there. I have no spare calipers as I have a Europa mono in the shop with some seri ous gear/brake issues and may have to rebuild everything! I find it odd th at the gear and brakes passed inspection for the last two annuals in this c ondition. I'm afraid if your disk and caliper are in bad shape the cost of replacemen ts is getting harder. Consider the Berringer Brake unit as a long term sol ution. I'm just too old to worry about long term, so I spend the time and buff and clean. Best Regards, Bud Yerly -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr onics.com> On Behalf Of fklein@orcasonline.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 9:25 PM Subject: Europa-List: mono brake puck casonline.com>" <fklein@orcasonline.com<mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>> Gentlemen, I=92m hoping to source a mono brake puck here in the US, perhaps from someo ne who=92s converted to trigger. Please let me know if anyone might have one for sale, Fred A194 %2Fwww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3 ad28163644123e9c08d956e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6 37636372926500931%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luM zIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BfSQ6YEB0xSFO8ePbdYE DKe6Cu0S91HjfN9NerWCarI%3D&amp;reserved=0 %2Fforums.matronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d9 56e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7C Unknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=qJOXe4S2WWNmyhF2SPqV%2BYsrAOwDABj3pQKOza%2 FwjP8%3D&amp;reserved=0 %2Fwiki.matronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956 e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUn known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJ XVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=QH2H8vTMrYORxja2Rfis8oWY6%2BQU7BXyoUCZujEPPr Y%3D&amp;reserved=0 %2Fwww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad281636441 23e9c08d956e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926 500931%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6 Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=UZ9OpnBlFzqo50zKLiDgmLsfdMG7IjLyB x%2FKceUUVNg%3D&amp;reserved=0


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    Time: 09:50:12 AM PST US
    From: "fklein@orcasonline.com" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: mono brake puck
    Davidyes, the Beringer components can be a bit spendy, though I already have their stick mounted lever with integral reservoir, thus allowing left hand on brake, right hand on throttleF. > On Aug 4, 2021, at 1:22 AM, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: > > Fred, if you have some spare $$$s it=99s worth considering the Beringer wheel and brake system, which is lighter and a much superior braking system and a tubeless tyre. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > > > > On 2021-08-04 02:24, fklein@orcasonline.com wrote: > <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>" <fklein@orcasonline.com <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>> >> >> Gentlemen, >> >> I=99m hoping to source a mono brake puck here in the US, perhaps from someone who=99s converted to trigger. >> >> Please let me know if anyone might have one f========================h ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-Listsp; orums.matronics.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://f================== ======http://wikisp; - List &nb --> http://www.matronics.com/contribut============== >> >> >> >> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>


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    Time: 09:53:22 AM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: mono brake puck
    Thanks BudMy concern about replacement stems from an apparent brake fluid leakdidn=99t realize there was a potential =9CO=9D ring failurealways hate to snip my elegant safety wiringFred > On Aug 4, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote: > > Fred, > I've had good luck simply buffing out the pucks and the caliper. It's just aluminum, and rarely does the puck get damaged. It does get a bit rough from corrosion. A freshly smoothed caliper and puck with a new O ring seems to work well. I use a cotton wheel on a Dremel type tool and some red jewelers rouge after a sanding with 1000 grit paper to shine it up. O rings are tough to find. Especially the square edged ones. I'm no help there. > > I have no spare calipers as I have a Europa mono in the shop with some serious gear/brake issues and may have to rebuild everything! I find it odd that the gear and brakes passed inspection for the last two annuals in this condition. > > I'm afraid if your disk and caliper are in bad shape the cost of replacements is getting harder. Consider the Berringer Brake unit as a long term solution. I'm just too old to worry about long term, so I spend the time and buff and clean. > > Best Regards, > Bud Yerly > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>> On Behalf Of fklein@orcasonline.com <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 9:25 PM > To: europa-list <europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>> > Subject: Europa-List: mono brake puck > <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>" <fklein@orcasonline.com <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>> > > Gentlemen, > > I=99m hoping to source a mono brake puck here in the US, perhaps from someone who=99s converted to trigger. > > Please let me know if anyone might have one for sale, > > Fred > A194 > - The Europa-List Email Forum - > --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.matr onics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644 123e9c08d956e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6376363729 26500931%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBT iI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BfSQ6YEB0xSFO8ePbdYEDKe6Cu0 S91HjfN9NerWCarI%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mat ronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad2816364 4123e9c08d956e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372 926500931%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BfSQ6YEB0xSFO8ePbdYEDKe6Cu 0S91HjfN9NerWCarI%3D&amp;reserved=0> > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.m atronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956e71f98%7 C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUnknown%7 CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M n0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=qJOXe4S2WWNmyhF2SPqV%2BYsrAOwDABj3pQKOza%2FwjP8%3 D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums. matronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956e71f98% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUnknown% 7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6 Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=qJOXe4S2WWNmyhF2SPqV%2BYsrAOwDABj3pQKOza%2FwjP8% 3D&amp;reserved=0> > - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.mat ronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956e71f98%7C8 4df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUnknown%7CT WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0 %3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=QH2H8vTMrYORxja2Rfis8oWY6%2BQU7BXyoUCZujEPPrY%3D&am p;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ma tronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956e71f98%7C 84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUnknown%7C TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn 0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=QH2H8vTMrYORxja2Rfis8oWY6%2BQU7BXyoUCZujEPPrY%3D&a mp;reserved=0> > - List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.matr onics.com%2Fcontribution&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d95 6e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7C Unknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=UZ9OpnBlFzqo50zKLiDgmLsfdMG7IjLyBx%2FKce UUVNg%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mat ronics.com%2Fcontribution&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d9 56e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7 CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=UZ9OpnBlFzqo50zKLiDgmLsfdMG7IjLyBx%2FKc eUUVNg%3D&amp;reserved=0>


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    Time: 03:36:19 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: mono brake puck
    Fred, try kartcomponents.com Years ago I got replacement o-rings from them , I think they were a supplier to Europa at that time. An inquiry might be worth a try. I ordered an extra set too, but I just did a search, can=99t find, sor ry. Jerry Sent from my iPad > On Aug 4, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BBThanks BudMy concern about replacement stems from an app arent brake fluid leakdidn=99t realize there was a potential =9CO=9D ring failurealways hate to snip my elegant safety w iringFred > >> On Aug 4, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote: >> >> Fred, >> I've had good luck simply buffing out the pucks and the caliper. It's ju st aluminum, and rarely does the puck get damaged. It does get a bit rough f rom corrosion. A freshly smoothed caliper and puck with a new O ring seems t o work well. I use a cotton wheel on a Dremel type tool and some red jewele rs rouge after a sanding with 1000 grit paper to shine it up. O rings are t ough to find. Especially the square edged ones. I'm no help there. >> >> I have no spare calipers as I have a Europa mono in the shop with some se rious gear/brake issues and may have to rebuild everything! I find it odd t hat the gear and brakes passed inspection for the last two annuals in this c ondition. >> >> I'm afraid if your disk and caliper are in bad shape the cost of replacem ents is getting harder. Consider the Berringer Brake unit as a long term so lution. I'm just too old to worry about long term, so I spend the time and b uff and clean. >> >> Best Regards, >> Bud Yerly >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@ma tronics.com> On Behalf Of fklein@orcasonline.com >> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 9:25 PM >> To: europa-list <europa-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Europa-List: mono brake puck >> online.com> >> >> Gentlemen, >> >> I=99m hoping to source a mono brake puck here in the US, perhaps fr om someone who=99s converted to trigger. >> >> Please let me know if anyone might have one for sale, >> >> Fred >> A194 >> - The Europa-List Email Forum - >> --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw ww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad281 63644123e9c08d956e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6376363 72926500931%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BfSQ6YEB0xSFO8ePbdYEDKe6Cu0S 91HjfN9NerWCarI%3D&amp;reserved=0 >> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ff orums.matronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956e71 f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUnknow n%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6 Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=qJOXe4S2WWNmyhF2SPqV%2BYsrAOwDABj3pQKOza%2FwjP8%3D &amp;reserved=0 >> - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - >> --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw iki.matronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956e71f9 8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUnknown% 7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn 0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=QH2H8vTMrYORxja2Rfis8oWY6%2BQU7BXyoUCZujEPPrY%3D&amp ;reserved=0 >> - List Contribution Web Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw ww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c 08d956e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931 %7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=UZ9OpnBlFzqo50zKLiDgmLsfdMG7IjLyBx%2FKceU UVNg%3D&amp;reserved=0 >


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    Time: 04:51:26 PM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: mono brake puck
    The more you make things secure and tidy, the more you get practice doing i t over. Best Regards, Bud From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr onics.com> On Behalf Of Fred Klein Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake puck Thanks Bud=85My concern about replacement stems from an apparent brake flui d leak=85didn=92t realize there was a potential =93O=94 ring failure=85alwa ys hate to snip my elegant safety wiring=85Fred On Aug 4, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com<mailto:budyerly@msn .com>> wrote: Fred, I've had good luck simply buffing out the pucks and the caliper. It's just aluminum, and rarely does the puck get damaged. It does get a bit rough fr om corrosion. A freshly smoothed caliper and puck with a new O ring seems to work well. I use a cotton wheel on a Dremel type tool and some red jewe lers rouge after a sanding with 1000 grit paper to shine it up. O rings ar e tough to find. Especially the square edged ones. I'm no help there. I have no spare calipers as I have a Europa mono in the shop with some seri ous gear/brake issues and may have to rebuild everything! I find it odd th at the gear and brakes passed inspection for the last two annuals in this c ondition. I'm afraid if your disk and caliper are in bad shape the cost of replacemen ts is getting harder. Consider the Berringer Brake unit as a long term sol ution. I'm just too old to worry about long term, so I spend the time and buff and clean. Best Regards, Bud Yerly -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-europa-list-serve r@matronics.com> <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-europ a-list-server@matronics.com>> On Behalf Of fklein@orcasonline.com<mailto:fk lein@orcasonline.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 9:25 PM >> Subject: Europa-List: mono brake puck casonline.com>" <fklein@orcasonline.com<mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>> Gentlemen, I=92m hoping to source a mono brake puck here in the US, perhaps from someo ne who=92s converted to trigger. 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    Time: 07:49:09 PM PST US
    From: "fklein@orcasonline.com" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: mono brake puck
    Budforgive me, but when I look at the exploded view, 29-8, in the XS Build Manual, I don=99t see any hint that the Europa =9CBrake Slave Cylinder LG23" breaks down into pieces or contains an O ring. =46rom what you=99ve written, I=99m thinking that if I remove the two AN4H-15A bolts, doing so will allow me access to the O ring that you=99ve mentionedPlease confirmor Is the puck, or slave cylinder, just a block with a hole in it? and if so, where is this O ring? Please forgive my ignorance. My leak appears to be coming from the bleeder screw; however, I have, as per the manual, wrapped the bleeder screw in PTFE tape. BTW, I=99ve really trashed the hex portion of the bleeder screw, so I=99d love to find a replacement. Fred > On Aug 4, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote: > > The more you make things secure and tidy, the more you get practice doing it over. > > Best Regards, > Bud > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>> On Behalf OfFred Klein > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 12:53 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake puck > > Thanks BudMy concern about replacement stems from an apparent brake fluid leakdidn=99t realize there was a potential =9CO=9D ring failurealways hate to snip my elegant safety wiringFred > > > On Aug 4, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com <mailto:budyerly@msn.com>> wrote: > > Fred, > I've had good luck simply buffing out the pucks and the caliper. It's just aluminum, and rarely does the puck get damaged. It does get a bit rough from corrosion. A freshly smoothed caliper and puck with a new O ring seems to work well. I use a cotton wheel on a Dremel type tool and some red jewelers rouge after a sanding with 1000 grit paper to shine it up. O rings are tough to find. Especially the square edged ones. I'm no help there. > > I have no spare calipers as I have a Europa mono in the shop with some serious gear/brake issues and may have to rebuild everything! I find it odd that the gear and brakes passed inspection for the last two annuals in this condition. > > I'm afraid if your disk and caliper are in bad shape the cost of replacements is getting harder. Consider the Berringer Brake unit as a long term solution. I'm just too old to worry about long term, so I spend the time and buff and clean. > > Best Regards, > Bud Yerly > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>> On Behalf Of fklein@orcasonline.com <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 9:25 PM > To: europa-list <europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>> > Subject: Europa-List: mono brake puck > <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>" <fklein@orcasonline.com <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>> > > Gentlemen, > > I=99m hoping to source a mono brake puck here in the US, perhaps from someone who=99s converted to trigger. > > Please let me know if anyone might have one for sale, > > Fred > A194 > - The Europa-List Email Forum - > --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.matr onics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644 123e9c08d956e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6376363729 26500931%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBT iI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BfSQ6YEB0xSFO8ePbdYEDKe6Cu0 S91HjfN9NerWCarI%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mat ronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a94b2141d0f43c66 d0a08d95769002e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6376369307495 72097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6 Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6asXpjWGziFWsb8Nz%2F7Q88Haxg%2FhrqGo UUhYVcD%2F%2B5c%3D&reserved=0> > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.m atronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956e71f98%7 C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUnknown%7 CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M n0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=qJOXe4S2WWNmyhF2SPqV%2BYsrAOwDABj3pQKOza%2FwjP8%3 D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums. matronics.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a94b2141d0f43c66d0a08d95769002e%7C84 df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636930749572097%7CUnknown%7CTW FpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% 3D%7C1000&sdata=SOzxxzOxjsuEujy17%2FThMTftYM9FFF9ZW3tVXKZ6YeQ%3D&reserve d=0> > - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.mat ronics.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d956e71f98%7C8 4df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7CUnknown%7CT WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0 %3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=QH2H8vTMrYORxja2Rfis8oWY6%2BQU7BXyoUCZujEPPrY%3D&am p;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ma tronics.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a94b2141d0f43c66d0a08d95769002e%7C84df 9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636930749582095%7CUnknown%7CTWFp bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D %7C1000&sdata=RMZRJ8mZTgS0E1o%2FDs%2BvZhrfK8wwMhUXouM5wxGvsxQ%3D&reserve d=0> > - List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > --> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.matr onics.com%2Fcontribution&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ea3ad28163644123e9c08d95 6e71f98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636372926500931%7C Unknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=UZ9OpnBlFzqo50zKLiDgmLsfdMG7IjLyBx%2FKce UUVNg%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mat ronics.com%2Fcontribution&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a94b2141d0f43c66d0a08d95769 002e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636930749582095%7CUnk nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJ XVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=uCSzhLSL6B1IEyqvpEqfdBzKGO%2FiMuDjs1KPIf8h624%3 D&reserved=0>


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    Time: 10:11:55 PM PST US
    From: Max Earnshaw <maxearnshaw@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/28/21
    Hi Matt. I have really enjoyed subscribing to the list. I now no longer have a Europa so can you please remove me from the mailing list. Regards Max Earnshaw On Thu, 29 Jul 2021, 18:38 Europa-List Digest Server, < europa-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 21-07-28&Archive=Europa > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 21-07-28&Archive=Europa > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Europa-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 07/28/21: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > >




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