---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/19/21: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:41 AM - Re: Trigear cockpit module bulkhead install (Peter Jeffers) 2. 10:27 AM - Re: Trigear cockpit module bulkhead install (William Daniell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:08 AM PST US From: "Peter Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trigear cockpit module bulkhead install Hi Brian, Sorry to have taken a while to reply to your letter but it has taken a little time to get an answer from a reliable source. I copy you a portion of a reply I received from Andy Draper who was part of the design and development team of the Europa Aircraft. Andy says, I don't know why it was not incorporated into the manual but I expect it was simply due to too much going on at the time. On the positive side, it's not structural, but was intended to isolate the nose gear assembly within the fuselage from components within the tunnel space. Service experience over the last 20 odd years from those examples without it would suggest that it's not a detriment not to have it fitted. Best regards Andy Also best regards from me Pete Jeffers From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Phillips Sent: 17 August 2021 00:23 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trigear cockpit module bulkhead install Thanks very much, Will, much appreciated. A removable bulkhead, that sounds like a really good idea, will do that. Brian Phillips, Downunder. On 17/08/2021 1:09 am, William Daniell wrote: Brian since no one else has answered I will attempt to explain. The bulkhead referred to in the build manual goes in the cockpit module tunnel. When i built mine I got the "word" from the forum that this was the thing to do. There are no obvious locating points or hard points. I cut the bulkhead and adjusted it to fit the tunnel. In my case lacking the instruction I made the bulkhead in a single piece. I then covered the edges of the bulkhead in plastic and masking taped the bulkhead in place. I put 4 ply bid tapes on the top and both sides to form 2" right angle brackets in the join between the bulkhead and cockpit module. Once cured I drilled 3/16 holes through both and bolted in place. Will William Daniell LONGPORT +1 786 878 0246 On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:17 PM Brian Phillips wrote: I was browsing the Europa club mod site, and stumbled across this trigear cockpit module bulkhead install in the known corrections. I can't find any reference to it in the build manual nor hints & tips compilation, and the 3mm ply templates do not show the pieces there. I can see there are existing stiffeners in the cockpit module I have, see photos, but I do not know if these replace or support these bulkheads. Does anyone know if these two bulkhead pieces are actually required and do they need to be flox sandwiched into place? Brian Phillips. Virus-free. www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:48 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trigear cockpit module bulkhead install Bud recommends on the tri at least, not installing the stainless firewall on the front landing gear frame, but rather having it all open up to the bulkhead in question to improve cooling. The cockpit tunnel and bulkhead is lined with firewall blanket. See bud's cooling 101. Will William Daniell LONGPORT +1 786 878 0246 On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 1:44 AM Peter Jeffers wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Sorry to have taken a while to reply to your letter but it has taken a > little time to get an answer from a reliable source. I copy you a portion > of a reply I received from Andy Draper who was part of the design and > development team of the Europa Aircraft. > > Andy says, > > I don't know why it was not incorporated into the manual but I expect it > was simply due to too much going on at the time. On the positive side, > it's not structural, but was intended to isolate the nose gear assembly > within the fuselage from components within the tunnel space. Service > experience over the last 20 odd years from those examples without it would > suggest that it's not a detriment not to have it fitted. > > > Best regards > > Andy > > > Also best regards from me > > Pete Jeffers > > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Brian Phillips > *Sent:* 17 August 2021 00:23 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Trigear cockpit module bulkhead install > > > Thanks very much, Will, much appreciated. A removable bulkhead, that > sounds like a really good idea, will do that. > > Brian Phillips, > Downunder. > > On 17/08/2021 1:09 am, William Daniell wrote: > > *B*rian > > since no one else has answered I will attempt to explain. > > The bulkhead referred to in the build manual goes in the cockpit module > tunnel. When i built mine I got the "word" from the forum that this was > the thing to do. There are no obvious locating points or hard points. > > > I cut the bulkhead and adjusted it to fit the tunnel. In my case lacking > the instruction I made the bulkhead in a single piece. I then covered the > edges of the bulkhead in plastic and masking taped the bulkhead in place. > I put 4 ply bid tapes on the top and both sides to form 2" right angle > brackets in the join between the bulkhead and cockpit module. Once cured I > drilled 3/16 holes through both and bolted in place. > > > Will > > William Daniell > > LONGPORT > > +1 786 878 0246 > > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:17 PM Brian Phillips wrote: > > I was browsing the Europa club mod site, and stumbled across this > trigear cockpit module bulkhead install in the known corrections. I > can't find any reference to it in the build manual nor hints & tips > compilation, and the 3mm ply templates do not show the pieces there. I > can see there are existing stiffeners in the cockpit module I have, see > photos, but I do not know if these replace or support these bulkheads. > Does anyone know if these two bulkhead pieces are actually required and > do they need to be flox sandwiched into place? > > Brian Phillips. > > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.