---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/21/21: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:05 AM - Thermostat and clutch (William Daniell) 2. 05:25 AM - Re: Thermostat and clutch (SPURPURA) 3. 09:30 PM - Re: Re: Carb Balancing (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:56 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Europa-List: Thermostat and clutch I remember long discussions recommending thermostats. With the freezing florida winter approaching and my 5 year rubber change coming up (its not five years most of my hoses of my quick build kit which took 14 years to finish were manufactured not long after delivery in 2004) i decided to follow advice and fit a thermostat. What is recommended?ACS offer thermostasis and i believe permacool. Any thoughts? Also i want to fit a clutch to my 912 turbo. Does anyone have a gearbox with clutch that theyd like to sell me? Thanks Will William Daniell +1 786 878 0246 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:33 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Thermostat and clutch From: "SPURPURA" I have the Permacool thermostat on my 912uls and Im quite happy with it. No longer have to wait for oil temperature to come up and in flight the oil warms up enough,especially in the winter. -------- N951EU - Tri-gear & 912ULS, N77EU- Mono & 914 I'D RATHER HAVE A BOTTLE IN FRONT OF ME THAN A FRONTAL LABOTAMY. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=503246#503246 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:05 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Carb Balancing No doubt about it: Today we are spoiled by the neat electronic stuff that makes our lives easier. I've had dual Webers and dual Hollies and frankly, I find the Bings to be very simple, but they wear and adjust differently than venturi carbs. If the Rotax engine runs smooth so that you can easily read the ignition modules at all RPMs the Bings last forever. If the engine is always shaking, the carbs will be trashed soon. Balancing the carbs is straight out of the Rotax manual and now videos. There should be no excuse for how to do a carb balance by the book, but that feel and sound is most important however, that ability some just never get as there are too many things going on in an engine. I don't think its skill as much as research, observation and patience to determine a root cause of a problem. You great mechanics study engines and tinker and never give up no matter how hot, miserable or hungry until you understand and then solve the problem. The old Thomas Edison approach, just keep on trying. Of course, as I get older, just remembering what I did is slipping away. I wish we just had a simple SDS fuel injection with a simple pot lever arm for a mixture control and a knock sensor. Ah to dream. Best Regards, Bud Yerly -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Area-51 Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 3:44 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Carb Balancing I hear you there Bud... getting the dual vacum gauge to function may require blocking off the balance pipe between left/right manifolds, otherwise backpressure may interfere with true gauge reading; inline restrictor would dampen needle movement. The bing carbi is not too different to the stromberg; age/grime/carbon blowing back into the inlet manifold from the combustion cylinder will eventually result in wear between carbi piston and its bore; so over time there would be slight discrepancies between operational height at various rpm due to slight vacum differences ; so the more carburettors used the greater the opportunity toward variation in mixture; and the way each carbi is balanced off against the others is by raising each piston manually and observing changes at idle or set rpm (as with SU or Stromberg tuning)... It doesnt take much to setup a minor harmonic vibration. This is why a dellorto can offer superior performance; from dellorto its onto the world of mechanical or electronic injection and all have their endemic nuances. Another usable diagnostic is monitoring all individual exhaust headers at tuned lengths from the exhaust valve; compare and contrast... Personally, to get multiple constant depression carbis to run in perfect unison, other than buying s new matched pair, everything needs to be set up equaly on a bench down to .0005 accuracy, all pistons need to be checked and equally balanced, and then piston heights need to be equally set at a uniform air flow, and then it all needs to be setup for smooth idling... It can literally take weeks; and you might get 200, or 2000, hours of joy... somewhere you just need to draw the line at Cost/Time/Benefit. After 40 years making internal combustion engines run smooth first thing I would do is throw both carbis in the bin, unless you are a diehard purist, and fit good quality injection. All things equal the rotax is a really really sweet powerplant which has left me very very impressed by... as is, could probably benefit by having an O2 sensor and readout retro fitted for inflight diagnostic. And Bud is right there; get your fuel supply done and move onto ignition Read this topic online here: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.matronics.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D503235%23503235&data=04%7C01%7C%7C45c677748414428bfa7e08d97c6f8daa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637677640828333938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YDdYPZfyivRhla677Nupaa0eM6yOL%2FNHBkZ4qdT411o%3D&reserved=0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.