---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/23/21: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:27 AM - Re: Flying In Rain (John Wighton) 2. 01:06 AM - Re: Flying In Rain (Rick Moss) 3. 04:35 AM - Re: Re: Flying In Rain (D McFadyean) 4. 04:38 AM - Re: Re: Flying In Rain (D McFadyean) 5. 08:14 AM - Re : Flying In Rain (John Wigney) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:57 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flying In Rain From: "John Wighton" Very clean and polished aircraft + rain =no difference Dirty aircraft + rain = flies a bit slower Ricks post is interesting, l have never repainted a prop. Current hrs is 600. Europa is unlike a DA20 which, when powered by a Rotax, in the rain, will decend at full throttle under normal student type flying. Flown with more understanding, ie enter cruise from a gentle decent, getting ahead of the drag bubble - the performance drop off is noticeable but not dire. Based on my own experiences. -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=503597#503597 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:11 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flying In Rain From: "Rick Moss" Ive also never previously had to repaint a prop. However, mine was repainted by Airmaster when it went back for overhaul; 12 months and 50hrs later, the paint is peeling on the backside of the blades. I dont think that the paint job was that good tbh, but Ive assumed its a consequence of flying in rain. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=503598#503598 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:48 AM PST US From: D McFadyean Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Flying In Rain But 'dirty aircraft + rain = clean aircraft'! Duncan mcf do not archive > On 23 October 2021 at 08:27 John Wighton wrote: > > > > Very clean and polished aircraft + rain =no difference > Dirty aircraft + rain = flies a bit slower > > Ricks post is interesting, l have never repainted a prop. Current hrs is 600. > > Europa is unlike a DA20 which, when powered by a Rotax, in the rain, will decend at full throttle under normal student type flying. > > Flown with more understanding, ie enter cruise from a gentle decent, getting ahead of the drag bubble - the performance drop off is noticeable but not dire. > > Based on my own experiences. > > -------- > John Wighton > Europa XS trigear G-IPOD > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=503597#503597 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:54 AM PST US From: D McFadyean Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Flying In Rain <<....the drag bubble ...>> meaning beyond the bottom of hte J-curve? And does rain displace the position and form of the J-curve? Duncan mcf. > On 23 October 2021 at 08:27 John Wighton wrote: > > > > Very clean and polished aircraft + rain =no difference > Dirty aircraft + rain = flies a bit slower > > Ricks post is interesting, l have never repainted a prop. Current hrs is 600. > > Europa is unlike a DA20 which, when powered by a Rotax, in the rain, will decend at full throttle under normal student type flying. > > Flown with more understanding, ie enter cruise from a gentle decent, getting ahead of the drag bubble - the performance drop off is noticeable but not dire. > > Based on my own experiences. > > -------- > John Wighton > Europa XS trigear G-IPOD > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=503597#503597 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:16 AM PST US From: John Wigney Subject: Europa-List: Re : Flying In Rain On occasion, I have flown through light rain with my XS monowheel, N262WF. What I have noticed is that the airspeed will fall off by 5 to 10 kts and then recovers as the rain is dried off. Quite a surprising demonstration of the efficiency of Don Dykin's laminar flow aerofoil. Cheers, John Mooresville, North Carolina /Time: 01:42:29 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Flying In Rain From: "Area-51" Has anyone got an experience theyd like to share regarding flying the europa through either showers or very light rain and how these conditions may affect the aircrafts performance? For example a Schrieb Motorfalks stall speed is raised 5kt if water droplets collect across the wings surface during light rain... 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