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Fri 11/12/21


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 01:03 AM - Re: Re: Mandatory U.K. LAA permit directive. Shoot-Bolt stop (Brian Davies)
     2. 07:46 AM - Re: Five-yearly fuel and oil hose replacements (Dave Disney)
     3. 11:32 AM - Re: Mandatory U.K. LAA permit directive. Shoot-Bolt stop (Area-51)
     4. 09:58 PM - Re: Securing the aircraft (fklein@orcasonline.com)
     5. 11:33 PM - Re: Mandatory U.K. LAA permit directive. Shoot-Bolt stop (Fred Klein)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:03:18 AM PST US
    From: Brian Davies <brian.davies44@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Mandatory U.K. LAA permit directive. Shoot-Bolt stop
    Following feedback on the Standard Mod. An amended version has just been published and can be found in the list of Europa Standard Mods on the LAA website. For those owners who have fitted microswitches or other items that make bolting of the stop problematic, this revision approves bonding of the stop to the external surface rather than bolting through the skin. I will not be responding to any comments on this so please direct any questions to LAA Engineering . Regards Brian <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 7:53 PM italianjon <jon.catilli@gmail.com> wrote: > > Given the pressures in the background, it is very hard to imagine how the > LAA could have acted differently. I'll go into more details in the > Chariman's Corner of the next club magazine. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=504052#504052 > >


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    Time: 07:46:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Five-yearly fuel and oil hose replacements
    From: "Dave Disney" <davedisney@yahoo.co.uk>
    Hi Jonathan, I'm just replacing the fuel and oil lines on my aircraft. I ordered 3m of Parker Push-Lok 836-8 from Listers (01215256485), cost was 100.61 incl VAT and del. I had about 400mm left over. I needed 8 metres of 8mm (5/16) tube and 5 metres of 6mm (1/4) tube. I used Gates Barricade tube for carburettors, it's good for 50psi and is a bit more flexible than the injection hose. I couldn't get mine from the same supplier so I got the 6mm from https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/fuel-hose-gates-barricade-ethanol-proof-1-4-id-per-metre-gfh1025x.html and 8mm from https://www.partsinmotion.co.uk/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_category_id=313&virtuemart_product_id=155116&Itemid=139 the 8mm hose was 7.5 metres on a roll which was 'just' enough. Your aircraft may require different amounts from mine as they have all been built differently. 30min with a tape measure with the top cowl off and a bit of crawling around underneath should give you an accurate enough figure to order both sets of hoses. My aircraft is an XS mono with 912ULS. Read this thread http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772840&highlight=fuel+lines Hope this helps Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=504257#504257


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    Time: 11:32:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mandatory U.K. LAA permit directive. Shoot-Bolt stop
    From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
    So it looks ugly and provides some additional drag and it prevents the hatch closing and the chance of it departing in flight; great, we are all here... how about an internal elbow at the rear bolt that prevents the hatch being locked when misaligned, or lets go further, the elbow pulls the rear of the hatch into alignment before the bolt extends; all aforementioned challenges mitigated; Ugly Factor = 0... Personally part of my pre taxi and pre rollout checks is using my elbow to try and push the rear corner of the door out; easier when two up on this cross check (flight crew arm and crosscheck cabin doors)... from a design perspective the current solution has not been well executed and is adhoc at best; just opinion based on 40 years of design and repair of mechanical stuff. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=504259#504259


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    Time: 09:58:47 PM PST US
    From: "fklein@orcasonline.com" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: Securing the aircraft
    > On Nov 28, 2018, at 3:38 PM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote: > > Has anyone got a clever solution for securing the aircraft doors - for example in a strange airport overnight? Will, Under some guidance from a locksmith, I=99ve installed those cylindrical key locks often seen on vending machines. If you=99re interested, I=99ll pull the interior cover plates and take some photos of the catch which prevents retraction of the shoot bolt. Fred


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    Time: 11:33:44 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Mandatory U.K. LAA permit directive. Shoot-Bolt stop
    In our discussion of ensuring that the rear shoot bolts are in their proper location, I=99ve been struck by the comments about checking by nudging with the pilot=99s left elbow to =9Cfeel=9D whether or not the door can be pushed outward (or not). If that is the common manner to assure oneself that he/she is safe to fly, I=99m not surprised that some Europas have lost a door, nor am I surprised that LAA has imposed a fix. While I understand the term =9Cmandatory=9D as it applies to aircraft registered in the UK, here is a solution which I used to eliminate the risk of losing a door in flight which consists of 3 elements: 1. I fashioned a tab from a scrap of 1/8=9D foam, and glassed it to the doors in alignment with the seat back/head rest, 2. I installed microswitches, located so as to contact the rear shoot bolts when the door latching mechanism is closed, 3. And I installed 2 green LEDs on my panel. I=99m indebted to Raimo Tolvio for the electrical components basic design. When closing the pilot=99s door, I reach with my right hand and pull the tab inward, while my left hand shoves the latch handle forward. If I have a passenger, before instructing him/her to shove their latch forward, I reach with my right hand around the back of the passenger =99s seat back/head rest and pull inward while the passenger shoves the latch forward. I think of this featherweight little tab as the most important component. The ability to pull the door inward eliminates racking of the door, prevents the shoot bolt from marring the exterior finish, and ensures that the door is properly closed. The microswitches and the 2 green LEDs on the panel were selected and wired in the simplest fashion in order to eliminate false positives 2 green lights confirm that the door is properly closed...if I don=99 t have 2 green lights, it=99s a no-go. And of course I use a checklist...




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