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1. 03:15 AM - Re: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
2. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (fklein@orcasonline.com)
3. 11:36 AM - Re: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (Pete)
4. 01:09 PM - Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? |
On my biennial renewal flight I was deliberately stalled in a mono gear
up steep turn (possibly 60 degrees). The plane went very abruptly into a
nose down rapidly rotating spin. No problem correcting with standard
recovery. A friend did something similar in his trigear and found
himself abruptly in an inverted spin. He let go of everything whilst
trying to think what to do and the spin corrected itself. The moral for
me is think carefully before trying these moves and certainly give
yourself lots of height. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2022-01-21 23:37, Peter pender wrote:
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> Hi Pete,
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> Will have a go at crossed control stalls one day and report back, but
> as an aside I was quite surprised at the difference in accelerated
> stalls gear up and down(mono). In mine anyway if others are similar I
> can see why some have come to grief turning onto final.
>
> Cheers Peter
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505766#505766
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? |
> On Jan 22, 2022, at 3:15 AM, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
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> On my biennial renewal flight I was deliberately stalled in a mono
gear up steep turn (possibly 60 degrees). The plane went very abruptly
into a nose down rapidly rotating spin. No problem correcting with
standard recovery. A friend did something similar in his trigear and
found himself abruptly in an inverted spin. He let go of everything
whilst trying to think what to do and the spin corrected itself. The
moral for me is think carefully before trying these moves and certainly
give yourself lots of height. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
Davidyour cautionary note is much appreciatedFred
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| Subject: | Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? |
Agreed! Training, proficiency, and altitude are all prerequisites imho.
That said, the Europa design has great recovery attributes, so testing
=98should=99 be benign. I have never yet heard of a pirep of Europa r
ecovery issues over my 25years of following :-) . Even with the lon
g wings (!) per recent reports (?). But keep those pireps coming!
IMHO spins are a fun and benign maneuver in a capable design. Not so in my u
nrecoverable (blanked rudder) lil=99hummelbird - not the best aero des
ign but still more fun than a barrel full of monkeys :-)
With a significant aileron trim tab required on my classic, i am typically e
xpecting a right hand break. Centered ball power off stalls so far in my 200
hrs with it have been pretty normal requiring only moderate foot exercise. M
y new CYA100 AOA is performing great, although id like explore how the vane a
nd indication perform in full slips near the stall left and right. Thus my o
riginal question.
Having it recover from an inverted spin by letting everything go is a neat t
rick! and again supports the excellent design hypothesis.
Cheers,
PeteZ
> On Jan 22, 2022, at 12:11 PM, fklein@orcasonline.com wrote:
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> =EF=BB
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>> On Jan 22, 2022, at 3:15 AM, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
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>> On my biennial renewal flight I was deliberately stalled in a mono gear u
p steep turn (possibly 60 degrees). The plane went very abruptly into a nose
down rapidly rotating spin. No problem correcting with standard recovery. A
friend did something similar in his trigear and found himself abruptly in a
n inverted spin. He let go of everything whilst trying to think what to do a
nd the spin corrected itself. The moral for me is think carefully before try
ing these moves and certainly give yourself lots of height. Regards, David J
oyce, GXSDJ
>>
> Davidyour cautionary note is much appreciatedFred
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