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1. 01:05 AM - Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation (Hitchflight)
2. 08:40 AM - Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation (n7188u)
3. 11:17 AM - Control Column Boot (n7188u)
4. 12:49 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/7 - 2/14 (n7188u)
5. 02:26 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (timward)
6. 02:51 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (n7188u)
7. 03:01 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (rparigoris)
8. 03:41 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (n7188u)
9. 04:17 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (rparigoris)
10. 04:22 PM - 3D view of carburetor working (rparigoris)
11. 05:24 PM - Re: Re: Control Column Boot (timward)
12. 06:45 PM - Re: Re: Control Column Boot (Tim Ward)
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| Subject: | Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation |
Fabulous respectful presentation. Very detailed. We were honoured by the presence
of three of the report contributors. From the Dutch Safety Board; Atze Samplonius,
UK Air Accident Investigation Branch; Alan Thorne. Plus of course Tim
Weert who supported the investigation .
Tim Weert gave a two hour solo presentation to sixty six Club members. Including
answering half a dozen detailed searching questions and observations from the
audience.
For me and my own NLP I was able to assimilate the exhaustive information in the
report more easily. Aiding my understanding of the likely chain of events. And
most importantly the likely startle and surprise scenario experienced by the
pilot. That led to me thinking what would or could be done in the moment, which
I guess was the object of Tims presentation. So as an instructor, Tim succeeded
with me. And judging by the applause most of the audience agreed.
So Im sorry to have to say you missed a good one Chris. Where permissions, GDPR
compliance and technology allow the Club like to video for the benefit those
Club Members in other time zones. This time it was not possible. We aspire to
have selected references to the incident and the presentation in the next Club
magazine.
Regards
Bob
PS Hope you are still enjoying your newly born Europa!
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| Subject: | Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation |
Than you for the report Bob.
Yes, I am sorry too that I missed it.
But it sounds like a great idea if Tim could prepare an article for one of the
Club's magazines where his views of this "startling" issue and ways to deal with
it were discussed.
Best Regards,
Chris
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| Subject: | Control Column Boot |
Hi,
I have been flying my Europa for almost a year now and there are a few things here
and there I still need to complete particularly now that I intend to start
touring a bit more with a passenger.
One of those things is the control column boots. I wonder if someone out there
has some pictures and a pattern for a control column solution? It would sure help
cut down on the effort required to come up with something that works properly.
I did find a couple of pictures in the Europa Owner forum but nothing on this one.
Thanks,
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/7 - 2/14 |
So I continued the tweaking and test flying of the new engine and I think at this
point everything is working well, including the MGL EMS-1.
Since now the workload has gone down a little, I have been taking care of a few
things that needed to be completed:
1.- Although I have an AV-30 and plenty of GPSs I thought that the nice Sirs compass
I got with the kit could not go to waste and installed it. Kind of compliments
my old fashioned looking round gage panel :)
2.- Since I intend to fly this airplane from grass often, I installed the gear
down latch spring modification. Tested it yesterday and it works nice. Much better
than the latch with no spring.
3.- My doors were already built and didn't have the door latch guards. Although
it was OK while I flew alone, now that I intend to go touring with my wife more
often I am now working on bonding a couple of guards.
Other things in my list are finally installing carpets, control column boots, the
speed kit I got with the kit (mono) and I would really like to do the cockpit
widening mod since I have the kit and it is really annoying to have to lead
sideways to not have your arm resting against the narrow door sill all the time.
Best,
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Control Column Boot |
=EF=BBHi Chris,
Many years ago I persuaded the local leather-man to produce some Control Col
umn Boots for Europa Builders and posted them when flying to Heathrow or LAX
.
Now retired, and with the Christchurch earthquake taking out the leather-man
=99s shop,
I haven=99t produced them for awhile. However, I did end up with one, d
on=99t know how, which I can send to you to make a copy and reproduce.
Photo below. If you only need one then mission accomplished.
Cheers,
Tim
Sent from my iPad
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
021 0640221
> On 9/02/2022, at 8:25 AM, n7188u <chmgarb@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I have been flying my Europa for almost a year now and there are a few thi
ngs here and there I still need to complete particularly now that I intend t
o start touring a bit more with a passenger.
>
> One of those things is the control column boots. I wonder if someone out t
here has some pictures and a pattern for a control column solution? It would
sure help cut down on the effort required to come up with something that wo
rks properly.
>
> I did find a couple of pictures in the Europa Owner forum but nothing on t
his one.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505929#505929
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Control Column Boot |
Hi Tim,
Thanks for the offer and I would gladly accept it. Please let me know how we can
arrange to have it shipped to me. My address is:
Chris Martin
1805 Chandelle Court
Port Orange, FL 32128
USA
I remember seeing a picture of some sort of instructions for your boot. Do you
still have it? If not NP, I think I can figure it out.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Control Column Boot |
Hi Chris
When I was strengthening floor left gap around flange for Velcro to hold stick
boot:
http://www.europaowners.org/gallery2/v/Begin-06-2003/Cockpit+lower+half/album237/
Wires going to and coming out of stick sneak through the gap left between top and
side flange.
The top / side and bottom flange were separate layups.
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Control Column Boot |
Thanks for the info and pictures Ron. Good info.
Found your floor reinforcing part interesting. A single layer of glass is certainly
not a lot to support large weight of someone getting into the airplane. The
LongEZ has a reinforcement on the aft seat floor fir that same reason.
Regards,
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Control Column Boot |
Hi Chris
I used 2 layers of BID (2BID) Ron
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| Subject: | 3D view of carburetor working |
Hi Group
Here's a link to video that allows 3D view of carburetor working:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toVfvRhWbj8
Next iteration video to be more Rotax specific can incorporate Constant Depression
feature showing how some leaning at altitude works and why it's critical to
vent float bowl to airbox when turbo charged and how selecting impact air going
to float bowl richens mixture.
Oh well, for now enjoy Carb 101.
Ron P.
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| Subject: | Re: Control Column Boot |
=EF=BB
=EF=BBHi Chris,
I shall drop it in the post, no problem. Unpick the thread and get measureme
nts for a leather-man or yourself to copy with your chosen colour, I suggest
.
Installation:
Create a fibreglass semi circular (elongated) fence from Tufnell control bea
ring housing, on the floor of the footwell, about 50mm high. Feed the boot d
own the control column. It goes over the outside of the fence, stuck down an
d secured with Velcro.
Also along the outer surfaces of the Tufnell control bearing housing. Tie bo
ot on stick. Complete!
Cheers,
Tim
Sent from my iPad
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
021 0640221
> On 9/02/2022, at 11:58 AM, n7188u <chmgarb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for the offer and I would gladly accept it. Please let me know how w
e can arrange to have it shipped to me. My address is:
>
> Chris Martin
> 1805 Chandelle Court
> Port Orange, FL 32128
> USA
>
> I remember seeing a picture of some sort of instructions for your boot. Do
you still have it? If not NP, I think I can figure it out.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505938#505938
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Control Column Boot |
Chris,
Now posted so not sure how many daysweeks.months it will t
ake these days! No tracking so might get lost in the ether,
the upper regions of space; the clear sky; the heavens.!!!!
Good luck, report back.
Need further help call
Sent from my iPhone
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton
CHRISTCHURCH 8052
Hom 03315166
> On 9/02/2022, at 14:32, timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB
> =EF=BB
> =EF=BBHi Chris,
> I shall drop it in the post, no problem. Unpick the thread and get measure
ments for a leather-man or yourself to copy with your chosen colour, I sugge
st.
> Installation:
> Create a fibreglass semi circular (elongated) fence from Tufnell control b
earing housing, on the floor of the footwell, about 50mm high. Feed the boo
t down the control column. It goes over the outside of the fence, stuck down
and secured with Velcro.
> Also along the outer surfaces of the Tufnell control bearing housing. Tie b
oot on stick. Complete!
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch, 8052
> New Zealand.
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
> 021 0640221
>
>>> On 9/02/2022, at 11:58 AM, n7188u <chmgarb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for the offer and I would gladly accept it. Please let me know how
we can arrange to have it shipped to me. My address is:
>>
>> Chris Martin
>> 1805 Chandelle Court
>> Port Orange, FL 32128
>> USA
>>
>> I remember seeing a picture of some sort of instructions for your boot. D
o you still have it? If not NP, I think I can figure it out.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505938#505938
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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