---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/08/22: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:05 AM - Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation (Hitchflight) 2. 08:40 AM - Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation (n7188u) 3. 11:17 AM - Control Column Boot (n7188u) 4. 12:49 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/7 - 2/14 (n7188u) 5. 02:26 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (timward) 6. 02:51 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (n7188u) 7. 03:01 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (rparigoris) 8. 03:41 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (n7188u) 9. 04:17 PM - Re: Control Column Boot (rparigoris) 10. 04:22 PM - 3D view of carburetor working (rparigoris) 11. 05:24 PM - Re: Re: Control Column Boot (timward) 12. 06:45 PM - Re: Re: Control Column Boot (Tim Ward) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:08 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation From: "Hitchflight" Fabulous respectful presentation. Very detailed. We were honoured by the presence of three of the report contributors. From the Dutch Safety Board; Atze Samplonius, UK Air Accident Investigation Branch; Alan Thorne. Plus of course Tim Weert who supported the investigation . Tim Weert gave a two hour solo presentation to sixty six Club members. Including answering half a dozen detailed searching questions and observations from the audience. For me and my own NLP I was able to assimilate the exhaustive information in the report more easily. Aiding my understanding of the likely chain of events. And most importantly the likely startle and surprise scenario experienced by the pilot. That led to me thinking what would or could be done in the moment, which I guess was the object of Tims presentation. So as an instructor, Tim succeeded with me. And judging by the applause most of the audience agreed. So Im sorry to have to say you missed a good one Chris. Where permissions, GDPR compliance and technology allow the Club like to video for the benefit those Club Members in other time zones. This time it was not possible. We aspire to have selected references to the incident and the presentation in the next Club magazine. Regards Bob PS Hope you are still enjoying your newly born Europa! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505920#505920 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:57 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation From: "n7188u" Than you for the report Bob. Yes, I am sorry too that I missed it. But it sounds like a great idea if Tim could prepare an article for one of the Club's magazines where his views of this "startling" issue and ways to deal with it were discussed. Best Regards, Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505923#505923 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:53 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Control Column Boot From: "n7188u" Hi, I have been flying my Europa for almost a year now and there are a few things here and there I still need to complete particularly now that I intend to start touring a bit more with a passenger. One of those things is the control column boots. I wonder if someone out there has some pictures and a pattern for a control column solution? It would sure help cut down on the effort required to come up with something that works properly. I did find a couple of pictures in the Europa Owner forum but nothing on this one. Thanks, Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505929#505929 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:44 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/7 - 2/14 From: "n7188u" So I continued the tweaking and test flying of the new engine and I think at this point everything is working well, including the MGL EMS-1. Since now the workload has gone down a little, I have been taking care of a few things that needed to be completed: 1.- Although I have an AV-30 and plenty of GPSs I thought that the nice Sirs compass I got with the kit could not go to waste and installed it. Kind of compliments my old fashioned looking round gage panel :) 2.- Since I intend to fly this airplane from grass often, I installed the gear down latch spring modification. Tested it yesterday and it works nice. Much better than the latch with no spring. 3.- My doors were already built and didn't have the door latch guards. Although it was OK while I flew alone, now that I intend to go touring with my wife more often I am now working on bonding a couple of guards. Other things in my list are finally installing carpets, control column boots, the speed kit I got with the kit (mono) and I would really like to do the cockpit widening mod since I have the kit and it is really annoying to have to lead sideways to not have your arm resting against the narrow door sill all the time. Best, Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505934#505934 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0516_202.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0517_112.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:59 PM PST US From: timward Subject: Re: Europa-List: Control Column Boot =EF=BBHi Chris, Many years ago I persuaded the local leather-man to produce some Control Col umn Boots for Europa Builders and posted them when flying to Heathrow or LAX . Now retired, and with the Christchurch earthquake taking out the leather-man =99s shop, I haven=99t produced them for awhile. However, I did end up with one, d on=99t know how, which I can send to you to make a copy and reproduce. Photo below. If you only need one then mission accomplished. Cheers, Tim Sent from my iPad Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz 021 0640221 > On 9/02/2022, at 8:25 AM, n7188u wrote: > > Hi, > > I have been flying my Europa for almost a year now and there are a few thi ngs here and there I still need to complete particularly now that I intend t o start touring a bit more with a passenger. > > One of those things is the control column boots. I wonder if someone out t here has some pictures and a pattern for a control column solution? It would sure help cut down on the effort required to come up with something that wo rks properly. > > I did find a couple of pictures in the Europa Owner forum but nothing on t his one. > > Thanks, > Chris > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505929#505929 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:40 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Control Column Boot From: "n7188u" Hi Tim, Thanks for the offer and I would gladly accept it. Please let me know how we can arrange to have it shipped to me. My address is: Chris Martin 1805 Chandelle Court Port Orange, FL 32128 USA I remember seeing a picture of some sort of instructions for your boot. Do you still have it? If not NP, I think I can figure it out. Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505938#505938 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:59 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Control Column Boot From: "rparigoris" Hi Chris When I was strengthening floor left gap around flange for Velcro to hold stick boot: http://www.europaowners.org/gallery2/v/Begin-06-2003/Cockpit+lower+half/album237/ Wires going to and coming out of stick sneak through the gap left between top and side flange. The top / side and bottom flange were separate layups. Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505939#505939 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:48 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Control Column Boot From: "n7188u" Thanks for the info and pictures Ron. Good info. Found your floor reinforcing part interesting. A single layer of glass is certainly not a lot to support large weight of someone getting into the airplane. The LongEZ has a reinforcement on the aft seat floor fir that same reason. Regards, Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505940#505940 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:02 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Control Column Boot From: "rparigoris" Hi Chris I used 2 layers of BID (2BID) Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505941#505941 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:22:47 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: 3D view of carburetor working From: "rparigoris" Hi Group Here's a link to video that allows 3D view of carburetor working: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toVfvRhWbj8 Next iteration video to be more Rotax specific can incorporate Constant Depression feature showing how some leaning at altitude works and why it's critical to vent float bowl to airbox when turbo charged and how selecting impact air going to float bowl richens mixture. Oh well, for now enjoy Carb 101. Ron P. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505942#505942 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:50 PM PST US From: timward Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Control Column Boot =EF=BB =EF=BBHi Chris, I shall drop it in the post, no problem. Unpick the thread and get measureme nts for a leather-man or yourself to copy with your chosen colour, I suggest . Installation: Create a fibreglass semi circular (elongated) fence from Tufnell control bea ring housing, on the floor of the footwell, about 50mm high. Feed the boot d own the control column. It goes over the outside of the fence, stuck down an d secured with Velcro. Also along the outer surfaces of the Tufnell control bearing housing. Tie bo ot on stick. Complete! Cheers, Tim Sent from my iPad Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz 021 0640221 > On 9/02/2022, at 11:58 AM, n7188u wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > Thanks for the offer and I would gladly accept it. Please let me know how w e can arrange to have it shipped to me. My address is: > > Chris Martin > 1805 Chandelle Court > Port Orange, FL 32128 > USA > > I remember seeing a picture of some sort of instructions for your boot. Do you still have it? If not NP, I think I can figure it out. > > Chris > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505938#505938 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:30 PM PST US From: Tim Ward Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Control Column Boot Chris, Now posted so not sure how many daysweeks.months it will t ake these days! No tracking so might get lost in the ether, the upper regions of space; the clear sky; the heavens.!!!! Good luck, report back. Need further help call Sent from my iPhone Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton CHRISTCHURCH 8052 Hom 03315166 > On 9/02/2022, at 14:32, timward wrote: > > =EF=BB > =EF=BB > =EF=BBHi Chris, > I shall drop it in the post, no problem. Unpick the thread and get measure ments for a leather-man or yourself to copy with your chosen colour, I sugge st. > Installation: > Create a fibreglass semi circular (elongated) fence from Tufnell control b earing housing, on the floor of the footwell, about 50mm high. Feed the boo t down the control column. It goes over the outside of the fence, stuck down and secured with Velcro. > Also along the outer surfaces of the Tufnell control bearing housing. Tie b oot on stick. Complete! > Cheers, > Tim > > > Sent from my iPad > Tim Ward > 12 Waiwetu Street, > Fendalton, > Christchurch, 8052 > New Zealand. > ward.t@xtra.co.nz > 021 0640221 > >>> On 9/02/2022, at 11:58 AM, n7188u wrote: >>> >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> Thanks for the offer and I would gladly accept it. Please let me know how we can arrange to have it shipped to me. My address is: >> >> Chris Martin >> 1805 Chandelle Court >> Port Orange, FL 32128 >> USA >> >> I remember seeing a picture of some sort of instructions for your boot. D o you still have it? If not NP, I think I can figure it out. >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505938#505938 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.