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1. 05:58 AM - Re: Seat cushion question (Martin Olliver)
2. 09:48 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 (Erich Trombley)
3. 09:49 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 (Erich Trombley)
4. 10:35 AM - Re: Seat cushion question (Erich Trombley)
5. 11:00 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 (Jerry Rehn)
6. 11:07 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 (Jerry Rehn)
7. 01:27 PM - Re: Seat cushion question (n7188u)
8. 01:35 PM - Re: Seat cushion question (n7188u)
9. 09:05 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 (Area-51)
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| Subject: | Re: Seat cushion question |
Hi Chris.
I have had two Europas and on both aircraft I used aircraft pilot spec
sheepskin as the top layer. I found them very comfortable. No problems encountered
as you describe. I could put you in touch with the supplier here in the UK.
They ship worldwide.
Martin
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| Subject: | RE: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 |
Hello all,
Well, I am get close to finishing my panel upgrade. Center stack is finishe
d which now includes the relocated constant speed controller and the IFR nav
igator.
The Garmin GPS175 is working nicely, communicating with both my Dynon Skyvie
w 10=9D display and the recently installed Garmin G5. The G5 serves as
a backup to the Dynon.
I was initially concerned that the three boxes wouldn=99t play well to
gether as different ARINC 429 setting are specified for each piece of equipm
ent. For ARINC to function properly the transmitting device can have only o
ne protocol set which must be acceptable to the receiving units.
Fortunately, after discussions with Dynon support and testing the G5 on a fr
iend=99s plane I was able to confirm they units could in fact be confi
gured to work properly. Essentially, the Dynon needed to be set to =9C
low speed=9D for data as that is the only speed the G5 can accept. Th
e G5 on the other hand was set to accept GAMA 3 data which the Dynon require
s in order to graphically display flight plans, holds, procedure turns, etc.
The additional data set contained in GAMA 3 (vs GAMA 1) is extraneous to t
he G5 as it does not have the capability to display the information and appa
rently disregards it.
Now, to finish the main panel and put the rest of the plane back together.
Erich
N28ET
Classic Mono 914
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| Subject: | RE: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 |
=EF=BBHello all,
Well, I am get close to finishing my panel upgrade. Center stack is finishe
d which now includes the relocated constant speed controller and the IFR nav
igator.
The Garmin GPS175 is working nicely, communicating with both my Dynon Skyvie
w 10=9D display and the recently installed Garmin G5. The G5 serves as
a backup to the Dynon.
I was initially concerned that the three boxes wouldn=99t play well to
gether as different ARINC 429 setting are specified for each piece of equipm
ent. For ARINC to function properly the transmitting device can have only o
ne protocol set which must be acceptable to the receiving units.
Fortunately, after discussions with Dynon support and testing the G5 on a fr
iend=99s plane I was able to confirm they units could in fact be confi
gured to work properly. Essentially, the Dynon needed to be set to =9C
low speed=9D for data as that is the only speed the G5 can accept. Th
e G5 on the other hand was set to accept GAMA 3 data which the Dynon require
s in order to graphically display flight plans, holds, procedure turns, etc.
The additional data set contained in GAMA 3 (vs GAMA 1) is extraneous to t
he G5 as it does not have the capability to display the information and appa
rently disregards it.
Now, to finish the main panel and put the rest of the plane back together.
Erich
N28ET
Classic Mono 914
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| Subject: | RE: Seat cushion question |
Chris,
Like others have mentioned, I too found lumbar support to be critical. I ma
de my own cushions using temperfoam (one layer of green and blue) for the se
at bottoms which I cut to shape and reattached to conform with the cockpit m
odule seat pan. See picture.
For the seat back, I used a seat cushion from an old Jeep Cherokee that my n
eighbor donated to the project. I sculpted it to follow the seat back (same
angle as the head rest. The cushion is approximately 1=9D thick at t
he top and 5=9D at the bottom providing excellent lumbar support. Whe
n installed in the aircraft the upper portion of the the seat back is up aga
inst the upper part of the cockpit module (the same surface that the head re
st attaches to. This creates a pocket behind the cushion as the cockpit mod
ule transitions to vertical. I fill the space with a roll of paper towels, w
indow cleaner and rags, fuel tester and a few other tools. The front of the
seat back cushion contacts seat bottom cushion just few inches from the cre
ase in the lower seat as it extends forward. Hope that makes sense. See pi
cture.
When I am seated my rear end and tail bone is on the inclined portion of the
lower seat cushion. I must say it is very comfortable. I fly over 5 hour l
egs when I travel cross county and no discomfort. Don=99t get me wron
g I am ready to get out of the plane at this point. Five hours sitting is a
long time no matter how comfortable the seat. BTW, I am 6=991=9D
tall.
Erich
N28ET
Classic Mono 914
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 |
For those of you in or near the desert southwest Copperstate Flyin KBXR is t
his coming weekend. It=99s growing larger every year especially since m
oving to Buckeye, Az. We plan on spending Friday and Saturday to absorb some
=9Caviation =9C my Europa is in Washington state so will RV in.
Check it out. Hope to see some Europa folks there.
Jerry & Margie
https://www.copperstate.org/
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 |
For those of you in or near the desert southwest Copperstate Flyin KBXR is t
his coming weekend. It=99s growing larger every year especially since m
oving to Buckeye, Az. We plan on spending Friday and Saturday to absorb some
=9Caviation =9C my Europa is in Washington state so will RV in.
Check it out. Hope to see some Europa folks there.
Jerry & Margie
https://www.copperstate.org/
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| Subject: | Re: Seat cushion question |
Thanks to all for the postings. All this information sure is helping understand
what you are doing out there.
The good news is that it seems my seats can be improved.
Martin, please send me the info for the gentleman that makes the seats or covers.
Never hurts to have the information.
Erich, I understood your explanation. I like your idea of leaving the space between
the vertical section of the cockpit module and the back of the seat back
open to store some items. Very clever and sure simplief dealing with the wing
attachment pins. However I have a question about that: What keeps the bottom of
your seat back from sliding aft?
My seat is similar but differs from two points:
1.- I have a small piece of blue Styrofoam (seen as dark blue in my posted CAD
image, at the intersection of the two angles at the seat bottom) that extends
the seat thigh support.
2.- My seat follows the headrest and small portion of cockpit module angle plus
two inches of foam thickness. Then there is the lumbar support. I think that
Erich's backrest sits much further forward at the bottom than mine. The bottom
of my seat is quite thick but it is all foam. It's 5 inches but that is from
the cockpit module vertical wall. Erich, could you please measure the distance
in your seat as I did in mine? See picture.
I think I am going to experiment with additional thigh support first. Then I am
intriged by the way you did your seat back Erich. Much simpler and I like the
storage space idea.
Apologies for all the questions and requests but I am very close to having all
the info I need to try a few ideas and I appreciate the help.
Best Regards,
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Seat cushion question |
BTW, and if anyone wonders, I sew together some pillow covers to protect the foam.
It is my intent to have them professionally covered once I am happy with the
design. I have 3mm plywood base both on the bottom and back to make the cushions
a little more stable. It ads a little weight but works very well. You can
step on the cushions and they don't move.
The foam is already bonded to the wood base so I hope my modifications don't involve
ripping foam out (maybe a little if I go with Erich's route and create a
void behind the backrest).
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/14 - 2/21 |
Pulled both float bowls off the 912 to inspect for debri; clean as a whistle and
about to give the AC its annuall...
Finished installing the hangar track; works perfectly as planned... my body feels
wrecked; discovered I love designing and really hate fabrication
Going up in the sky tomorrow
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