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Thu 03/03/22


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 11:03 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28 - 3/7 (n7188u)
     2. 04:01 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28 - 3/7 (Area-51)
     3. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28 - 3/7 (Pete Zut)
     4. 09:21 PM - Re: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28 - 3/7 (fklein@orcasonline.com)
     5. 09:27 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28 - 3/7 (Fred Klein)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:03:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28 - 3/7
    From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>
    Let me try to break the ice here by posting something. Last weekend I went to an EAA breakfast at 9FL1. Nice flight. Grass runway (the reason I build my Europa). Tall trees at the approach end made for an interesting approach in the slippery Europa (most people had issues). Some pictures attached. My neighbor Alan Burrows, just three houses from mine, is back from England and seems interested in getting his nice Europa back in the air. I hope he does. It would be nice to see a Europa in the air and not from the cockpit. His is a tri-gear and I know it has been featured in some of the older Europa magazines. Best Regards, Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506202#506202 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0579_500.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0574_1_160.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0576_1_115.jpg


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    Time: 04:01:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28 - 3/7
    From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
    Utter devastation this week; whole region went under water for a few days; Lismore airfield 4m over its highest mound; all aircraft and hangars destroyed; only one airfield in the area survived the highest floods on record... very very sad sight driving around seeing peoples homes lining the streets of mud... very sad... still no communications networks functioning; had to drive an hour to access the world today... So while all around was being ravaged by nature I was sitting in my offgrid home, unaffected other than having a wild amazonian torrent ripping my driveway to pieces and cleaning out the creek banks, i could do nothing but sit in front of the console and play with the digital europa while drinking ballantines and coffee; crunching numbers; trying different things out around the airframe and sending it to fully developed stalls, approach configurations, ground effect, and adding leading edge slats, playing with the engine cowl and main gear fairings. Its been a very exciting and focused week of flood driven isolation!!! So far the digital models aerodynamic performance is aligned to real life actuals; so very happy with the results... To answer Buds question raised about seeing what may happen flying with full up elevator trim applied, the numbers indicate this would be an advantage on a short field approach while maintaining a high nose attitude and enough power to remain behind the drag curve above and not below 60kt. With cruise power applied the numbers indicate a controlled stall landing; so rate of decent would be greater than normal and appears you would have no additional back travel on the control stick... it will be interesting to see what Buds adventure actually delivers. The electronic brain could be totally wrong!!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506211#506211 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/b5fc4d5d_2740_4b32_8ac1_7d401f1fc2bc_266.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ec4f88d9_6d87_4d82_aeea_e58ad52e0205_102.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/b217600c_983d_4d88_af2c_59493d6ac6af_672.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/5c2920f4_9bc0_4544_a2cd_54e4afc7341b_147.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/b9aced60_d86f_4708_8e5a_b5b690b58325_981.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/b44bf99e_24cd_457d_946b_b9976ad56103_376.jpeg


    Message 3


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    Time: 04:55:22 PM PST US
    From: Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28
    - 3/7 That is just terrible news regarding the storms and flooding! I hope everyone has insurance and can recover. Where are you geographically? WRT to the trim, the discussion was about full-down trim (as a debatable contributory cause of that accident), not full-up. Regards, PeteZ On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:09 PM Area-51 <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com> wrote: > goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com> > > Utter devastation this week; whole region went under water for a few days ; > Lismore airfield 4m over its highest mound; all aircraft and hangars > destroyed; only one airfield in the area survived the highest floods on > record... very very sad sight driving around seeing peoples homes lining > the streets of mud... very sad... still no communications networks > functioning; had to drive an hour to access the world today... > > So while all around was being ravaged by nature I was sitting in my > offgrid home, unaffected other than having a wild amazonian torrent rippi ng > my driveway to pieces and cleaning out the creek banks, i could do nothin g > but sit in front of the console and play with the digital europa while > drinking ballantines and coffee; crunching numbers; trying different thin gs > out around the airframe and sending it to fully developed stalls, approac h > configurations, ground effect, and adding leading edge slats, playing wit h > the engine cowl and main gear fairings. Its been a very exciting and > focused week of flood driven isolation!!! > > So far the digital model=99s aerodynamic performance is aligned to real life > actuals; so very happy with the results... > > To answer Bud=99s question raised about seeing what may happen flyi ng with > full up elevator trim applied, the numbers indicate this would be an > advantage on a short field approach while maintaining a high nose attitud e > and enough power to remain behind the drag curve above and not below 60kt . > With cruise power applied the numbers indicate a controlled stall landing ; > so rate of decent would be greater than normal and appears you would have > no additional back travel on the control stick... it will be interesting to > see what Bud=99s adventure actually delivers. The electronic brain could be > totally wrong!!! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506211#506211 > > > Attachments: > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/b5fc4d5d_2740_4b32_8ac1_7d401f1fc2bc_2 66.jpeg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ec4f88d9_6d87_4d82_aeea_e58ad52e0205_1 02.jpeg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/b217600c_983d_4d88_af2c_59493d6ac6af_6 72.jpeg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5c2920f4_9bc0_4544_a2cd_54e4afc7341b_1 47.jpeg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/b9aced60_d86f_4708_8e5a_b5b690b58325_9 81.jpeg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/b44bf99e_24cd_457d_946b_b9976ad56103_3 76.jpeg > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 09:21:43 PM PST US
    From: "fklein@orcasonline.com" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28
    - 3/7 > On Mar 3, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote: > > That is just terrible news regarding the storms and flooding! I hope everyone has insurance and can recover. Where are you geographically? Lismore airfield is 2 nautical miles south of Lismore in the Northern Rivers region of New South Wales, Australia >


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    Time: 09:27:05 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 2/28 - 3/7
    Yay!N194XS finally has covered seat cushions




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