Europa-List Digest Archive

Thu 03/24/22


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:05 AM - Re: What did you do with you EUROPA (h&jeuropa)
     2. 08:00 AM - PV-50 Prop settings (Paul Hawkins)
     3. 08:36 AM - Re: PV-50 Prop settings (Pete Zut)
     4. 09:47 AM - Re: Sun N Fun 2022 Forum (h&jeuropa)
     5. 09:51 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week, 3/21 - 3/28 (h&jeuropa)
     6. 11:44 AM - Re: PV-50 Prop settings (timward)
     7. 11:59 AM - What did you do with your Europa this week, 3/21 - 3/28 (timward)
     8. 07:35 PM - It seems like it is always something simple. (budyerly@msn.com)
     9. 08:13 PM - Sun 'n Fun (budyerly@msn.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:05:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What did you do with you EUROPA
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Pete, I looked at the last couple years of inspections and found that our 914 shows about 35 ft lbs. We measure with a cheap fish scale so accuracy is not real high but reasonable. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506381#506381


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    Time: 08:00:57 AM PST US
    From: Paul Hawkins <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail.com>
    Subject: PV-50 Prop settings
    Hi Some advice please on prop settings, my Europa has a 914 engine with an Arp last PV-50 prop in fine pitch it=92s set to give just under 5400 rpm static and on take-off works as it should the problem is when I set to cruise I a im for 130 Kts but I have to keep coming back on the throttle not to go abo ve that speed I end up with 130 Kts with an rpm of 4200 the problem started after a prop service, normally I tend to cruise at 125/130 for 4650/4700 r pm-ish, there=92s 10=B0 difference between fine and coarse pitch, which way should I adjust + or ' the 10=B0 prop difference? Cheers Paul


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    Time: 08:36:38 AM PST US
    From: Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: PV-50 Prop settings
    Can't advisde on the adjustment to get more fine, but opening a can of worms: Isn't 4700rpm cruise brutal on the gearbox? How many hours do you have on the box now, and have you had a 600hr service, and if yes, what were the observations? The advice by my local cert'd rotax guys is to always cruise above 5100rpm. Are many others cruising that low? .... and how are their gearbox's holding up? Cheers and thx, PeteZ C-GNPZ On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:09 AM Paul Hawkins <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail.co m> wrote: > > > Hi > > > Some advice please on prop settings, my Europa has a 914 engine with an > Arplast PV-50 prop in fine pitch it=99s set to give just under 5400 rpm > static and on take-off works as it should the problem is when I set to > cruise I aim for 130 Kts but I have to keep coming back on the throttle n ot > to go above that speed I end up with 130 Kts with an rpm of 4200 the > problem started after a prop service, normally I tend to cruise at 125/13 0 > for 4650/4700 rpm-ish, there=99s 10=C2=B0 difference between fine a nd coarse > pitch, which way should I adjust + or =93 the 10=C2=B0 prop differe nce? > > > Cheers Paul > >


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    Time: 09:47:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun N Fun 2022 Forum
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Sun N Fun is getting closer. Wed like to use this thread for everyone coming to the show. We have reserved room CFAA-02 on Thursday, April 7 at noon for the Europa Forum. There is no formal presentation planned, its primarily to gather as a group and share experiences. Most years there has been a dinner (Engineering Meeting) one evening at Hooters. This year it will be Thursday evening at 6 pm. Hooters is located at 3437 South Florida Avenue. Please respond to this thread if you plan to come. Transportation from the airport to the restaurant can be provided for those that fly in, but we need to know how many need this. Well post transportation coordination details on this thread and they will be available at Buds display. If you will have a car and can help with transportation, please post that too. Bud Yerly is displaying as Airmaster in space N-055. Many Europa flyers will visit his display from time to time. You can also sign up for the Engineering Meeting there. Heather and I expect to fly down for the week and camp in Homebuilt Camping. We can be contacted at the show at 269-849-9565. Post your cell number on this thread if you wish. Hope to see many of you there. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506384#506384


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    Time: 09:51:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week, 3/21 - 3/28
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    We got in a flight to Van Wert, OH and walked into town. The courthouse is really neat! We were surprised at much further along Spring is there. It's only about 60 miles south of us but many flowers were blooming and others budding out while we have virtually none yet! Now back to cold, overcast days with snow flurries predicted for this weekend. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506385#506385


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    Time: 11:44:26 AM PST US
    From: timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: PV-50 Prop settings
    Pete, Airmaster CSU sets the cruise rpm at 5000rpm as recommended in Rotax POH. You can of course adjust it as required with the CSU. I use 4500rpm in the c ircuit when giving other pilots a rating. Otherwise the speed downwind incre ases to 125kts only having to reduce it to 83kts for gear extension. Gear box torque on last annual check was good. 850hrs. Cheers, Tim Sent from my iPad Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz 021 0640221 > On 25/03/2022, at 4:44 AM, Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote: > > =EF=BB > Can't advisde on the adjustment to get more fine, but opening a can of wor ms: Isn't 4700rpm cruise brutal on the gearbox? How many hours do you have on the box now, and have you had a 600hr service, and if yes, what were the observations? The advice by my local cert'd rotax guys is to always cruise above 5100rpm. > > Are many others cruising that low? .... and how are their gearbox's holdin g up? > > Cheers and thx, > PeteZ > C-GNPZ > >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:09 AM Paul Hawkins <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail. com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> Some advice please on prop settings, my Europa has a 914 engine with an A rplast PV-50 prop in fine pitch it=99s set to give just under 5400 rpm static and on take-off works as it should the problem is when I set to crui se I aim for 130 Kts but I have to keep coming back on the throttle not to g o above that speed I end up with 130 Kts with an rpm of 4200 the problem sta rted after a prop service, normally I tend to cruise at 125/130 for 4650/470 0 rpm-ish, there=99s 10=C2=B0 difference between fine and coarse pitch , which way should I adjust + or =93 the 10=C2=B0 prop difference? >> >> >> >> Cheers Paul >> >> >> >>


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    Time: 11:59:04 AM PST US
    From: timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: What did you do with your Europa this week, 3/21 - 3/28
    Autumn colours are becoming evident here in New Zealand so drove down to Tim aru to collect my Europa trailer. As winter approaches time to do some work o n ZK-TIM. Going to install some wing tip strobes. Another Classic owner has d one this on the airfield with a long handmade steel pipe saw! Hence taking w ings off with trailer to check the inner mechanical systems and also do the s par bracket, which I hadn=99t completed. Adjusting the trailer to acco mmodate the port wing with the spar strap. Also installing some new Sterna P ropellers. So all go =9Cdownunder.=9D Fly safe. Cheers, Tim Sent from my iPad Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz 021 0640221 > On 25/03/2022, at 5:58 AM, h&amp;jeuropa <butcher43@att.net> wrote: > .net> > > We got in a flight to Van Wert, OH and walked into town. The courthouse i s really neat! > > We were surprised at much further along Spring is there. It's only about 6 0 miles south of us but many flowers were blooming and others budding out wh ile we have virtually none yet! > > Now back to cold, overcast days with snow flurries predicted for this week end. > > Jim > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506385#506385 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > >


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    Time: 07:35:50 PM PST US
    Subject: It seems like it is always something simple.
    From: "budyerly@msn.com" <budyerly@msn.com>
    I wanted to update you all on my latest interesting annual on N12AY. I had a top overhaul done on my old 914 due to my over speed. Kerry Yunk at Lockwood did a great job replacing my intake valves and cleaning up the seats, cylinders and such. I also had the gearbox done as it was nearing 500 hours. Initial pre annual test flight after the rebuild had some pesky oil leaks, overheating and the typical maladies of a 914 that has sat for months due to other priorities. I finished my annual but after many engine runs the coolant leaks were just a loose hose clamp or two venting pressure. The oil drips were common from the plenum, and the only surprises were my magnetic plug (new style) threads are a bit loose and to seal it properly, I used some Loctite 515 to seal the threads. I failed to properly seat my oil screen in the tank after cleaning which spit some oil off the can. The turbo seemed to be leaking oil. I worried about all the areas that could be wrong or failing. I looked, ran the engine, and fussed over the engine. The clamp on the 2 inch turbo to plenum line was poorly fitted after maintenance and I missed it. The old adage it is always the last thing you checked was proved right again. Thankfully all seems dry again. Attached is a paper I did on N12AY putting on some drip cans I will keep with my aircraft documentation. I copied Ron Paragoris's oil separator idea but on a smaller scale to test. So far so good, and I'm a happy non greasy maintainer. Now it's time to be a happy flier of a clean aircraft. Best Regards, Bud Yerly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506391#506391 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/catching_914_oil_drips_160.pdf


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    Time: 08:13:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Sun 'n Fun
    From: "budyerly@msn.com" <budyerly@msn.com>
    Sun 'n Fun is around the corner. As you know I've just finished the annual on N12AY and weather permitting I'll put it together at the airport tomorrow the 25th, do final runs and checks after assembly. Saturday the 26th I help my EAA Chapter set up the volunteer kitchen. Hopefully, I'll test fly 12AY Sunday or Monday. I'll start looking at the SnF site setup, weather permitting, somewhere between the 1st-4th (Friday-Monday). We have another cold front scheduled to come through on the 1-2nd of April so we will see. We're expecting clear skies after that. The show starts the 5th of April and once again I am on spot N-55 on the flight line. Anita and I will host and we will support Jim at the Europa gatherings. I'm also cleaning out the shop and I'm selling the mono trailer I did the video on. I have many used mono swing arms, wheels, and some old tire tubes. I think I have a used brake caliper and many odds and ends that have to go. I'll get a list together early next week and some prices. Shipping will probably cost more than I charge for these "Jewels". Anything left over after the show goes to metal salvage I guess. This may be my last Sun 'n Fun on the flightline as it is time to close the dirty old shop, and retire from the large presence at an airshow with airplanes and tents. Maybe an inside booth. I will still assist with Europa questions and assistance where I can. But mostly I will keep my website up and focus on just selling props and talking on the phone to aircraft and Airmaster owners. Come join us all for a week of Fun in the Sun. Bud and Anita Yerly Custom Flight Creations, Inc. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506392#506392




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