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Mon 04/04/22


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 04:43 AM - Re: Sun N Fun 2022 Forum (h&jeuropa)
     2. 06:56 AM - Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started usin (n7188u)
     3. 07:28 AM - Re: Sun N Fun 2022 Forum (n7188u)
     4. 08:23 AM - Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started using mogas (Erich Trombley)
     5. 08:46 AM - Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started using (n7188u)
     6. 10:18 AM - Re: Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started usin (Pete Zut)
     7. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started using mogas (Pete Zut)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:43:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun N Fun 2022 Forum
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    We decided to drive due to weather. So well arrive late Tuesday and camp in regular camping not Homebuilt camping. See you Wednesday and Thursday. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506478#506478


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    Time: 06:56:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started
    usin
    From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>
    Will, I used Gates Barricade hoses as recommended by Bud. Still get a whiff of smell once in a while. I noticed that I get it only at some specific speeds and traced it to the air from my vent looping around the baggage compartment and pushing air at me at my back. Discovering the leak at the tank vent boss and fixing it helped. Time will tell if it is really gone. Hoping that one day unleaded avgas becomes more readily available and it doesn't smell like dead dinosaur poop so much :) Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506482#506482


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    Time: 07:28:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun N Fun 2022 Forum
    From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>
    Jim, good to see you will be there. Bud described the upcoming weather in his email very well. Unfortunately the weather forecast looks OK except for Thursday. As he said, I am also just going to look out the window on Thursday and make a last minute decision regarding flying or driving. But I will be there for sure so count me in. But I really wanted to show of my new baby :( Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506483#506483


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    Time: 08:23:21 AM PST US
    From: Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started
    using mogas Will, I use mogas almost exclusively and have lived with the smell for 20 years. While it has been discussed on this forum that it is the hoses that are the culprit, I wonder if it isnt the PE fuel tank that is emitting the majority of the smell. I say that because, I have mostly aluminum fuel lines in my plane. Yes, the transitions from the tank fittings and the fuel pump/filter assembly are hose, but thats about it. I fuel the plane with 5 gallon PE fuel cans, filling them up at the local station on the way to the airport. It is surprising how much odor an empty fuel can emits while briefly stored in the car enroute to the fuel station. I remind my wife of this fact when she smells fuel after opening up the canopy. She always ask if we have a fuel leak in the plane! Erich N28ET Classic Mono 914


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    Time: 08:46:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started
    using
    From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>
    Erich, It's reassuring to hear you are having a similar experience as mine and yes, I have also suspected whether the smell could come from the tank too but can't really conclude that. I have an aluminum filler but used the original rubber filler hose as the couplings for that tube. They smell. So little things do contribute to it. Every so often I do open my access covers and stick my nose on through them (not very far though). No smells around the tank area so it is baffling to me as to where it comes from. But knowing that it is somewhat common in our planes makes me feel better. Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506487#506487


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    Time: 10:18:48 AM PST US
    From: Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started
    usin I second the Barricade hoses fwiw... Cheers, PeteZ On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 10:03 AM n7188u <chmgarb@gmail.com> wrote: > > Will, > > I used Gates Barricade hoses as recommended by Bud. Still get a whiff of > smell once in a while. I noticed that I get it only at some specific speeds > and traced it to the air from my vent looping around the baggage > compartment and pushing air at me at my back. > > Discovering the leak at the tank vent boss and fixing it helped. Time will > tell if it is really gone. > > Hoping that one day unleaded avgas becomes more readily available and it > doesn't smell like dead dinosaur poop so much :) > > Chris > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=506482#506482 > >


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    Time: 10:26:58 AM PST US
    From: Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: I didnt understand about the gas smell until I started
    using mogas Sounds like you're on the money. I also still have some smell after replacing with solid + barricade, likely via the PTFE (underflouranated tank) - Although doing the sniff test, my filler coupling rubber hoses (with the alum elbow) appear to be contributing as well. FWIW, my still not information kit's tank (which was flouronated at the factory) I had re-flouronated by the same industrial folks in Atlanta who do the fuel tanks for the auto industry, shampoo bottles etc etc. After the tank was done to their "automotive" level/standard, it's surface has become significantly/markedly "frosted" in texture. So there should be some improvement over the factor tanks - I can hope at least :-) Cheers, PeteZ On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:29 AM Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrote: m > > > > Will, > > I use mogas almost exclusively and have lived with the smell for 20 > years. While it has been discussed on this forum that it is the hoses > that are the culprit, I wonder if it isn=99t the PE fuel tank that is > emitting the majority of the smell. I say that because, I have mostly > aluminum fuel lines in my plane. Yes, the transitions from the tank > fittings and the fuel pump/filter assembly are hose, but that=99s a bout it. > > I fuel the plane with 5 gallon PE fuel cans, filling them up at the local > station on the way to the airport. It is surprising how much odor an > =9Cempty=9D fuel can emits while briefly stored in the car en route to the fuel > station. I remind my wife of this fact when she smells fuel after openi ng > up the canopy. She always ask if we have a fuel leak in the plane! > > Erich > N28ET Classic Mono 914 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >




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