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1. 03:24 AM - Re: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 (Pete)
2. 04:45 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 (n7188u)
3. 05:04 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 (n7188u)
4. 02:36 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 (Area-51)
5. 08:45 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 (n7188u)
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 |
Ive heard reports that the av30 horizon and heading are sometimes mot reliable
(they now offer an optional magnetometer). Also interested in Chriss pirep.
I find the garmin G5 to be rock solid fwiw.
Cheers,
PeteZ
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 |
I like the AV-30, a lot but yes, it has some limitations.
Peter is right, under certain circumstances the AI will drift a little and the
internal magnetometer really doesn't do anything. But I found the magnetometer
issue to be the same with other units (Dynon D6) with internal magnetometers
and uAvionix now offers an external one which should provide a fix.
I have seen the AI drift happen during certain maneuvers like a rapid deceleration
and turn as when entering downwind and slowing down at the same time. It will
recover quickly.
But since my airplane is strictly VFR I find it to be acceptable for my application.
For true IFR I would do a little more research on this matter. I think it
would be fine for emergency situations such as descending through an overcast
layer but I would not do an approach as it is today. But they have a certified
version so, if I was interested is IFR flying with it, I would do further research
as to why it seems to have these drift issues and still be approved. I
have a Dynon D6 in my LongEZ and it seems to be spot on. No experience with the
G5 but would expect the same. I just don't like the square look of those units.
I really like the round gage look in my panel (call me a classic romantic) and
the unit is gorgeous. The display is very bright (as you can see from the full
daylight pictures) and super crisp. No issue reading everything on the screen
(if you look carefully at my last panel picture posted here you can read almost
everything, even the DG tape which is pointing 180 degrees off to the west
(I never bother to set it, I have a compass and GPS for that, and should really
turn it off)). It is incredibly small depth wise and, in the typical uAvionix
fashion, very easy to install. Mine is connected to my Garmin 496 so it will
show heading to next waypoint, speed, time and distance. Wouldn't mind having
a second one underneath to act as a DG (well, GPS track or fit it with an external
magnetometer) but I realistically don't need it. The panel would look nice
though.
The built in pseudo AoA is almost useless but it will give you a good stall approach
warning. Just don't use it as an accurate AoA for landing purposes.
So despite my report being honest about it's pros and cons, I still love it and
would not doubt buying another one. I am just dead set on having my round panel
look and the price is right. Maybe if one day I lived somewhere were IFR is
practical, I would consider a regular EFIS panel. The combination of the AV-30
with the small MGL EC-1 currently fulfills all my instrumentation needs and
I love having the analog Winter ASI and altimeter. At one time I had the Winter
out for service in Germany and that is why I bought the AV-30. The ASI in the
AV-30 is accurate so flew with just that until I got the Winter back. And also
happy to have it as an emergency AI.
I hope this helps and don't hesitate to ask questions if you have any.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 |
One clarification: although when younger I used to be anal about making things
work perfectly, I have changed.
What I mean is that I have read that the AV-30 can be made to work better through
more extensive adjustment and calibration but at this point in my life I don't
spend that much time doing such things. I just like to go up and enjoy flying.
I pretty much slapped it in place, performed the basic calibrations and I
have just flown since. Also, as a former airline pilot, I have no interest in
flying hard IFR on my Europa (I heard that some pilots that have flown airliners
develop an aversion for flying IFR in small planes and I guess it is true
in my case). But I believe the AV-30 would do fine in case of emergency and reasonably
high ceilings.
So if you read that the AV-30 can be improved through further calibration, you
should know I have done none of that.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 |
That's a great review of the AV-30 Chris; thanks... I'm not a fan of the square
peg in a round hole aesthetic either. I have panel space for an extra gauge and
have been thinking the AV-30 ticks all the vitals. John did a great job keeping
things really simple when he built 181, so trying to retain that as much
as possible.
Are you running an Airmaster? Noticed you are doing 130kt there...
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 05/24 |
Nope, just a fixed pitch Duc Swirl 3. Notice the relatively low rpm. I can get
around 135-140 if I push a little harder.
And this is with an airplane on primer so happy about performance so far. Cant
wait for the paint which should happen before year end.
However, always compromises. Could be better on initial climb with a CS prop. Takeoff
run I do get 5200 rpm for a relatively short TO run. But as soon as I speed
up between 60 to about 90 the prop overloads a little, dropping the rpm to
around 4900 to 5000. I still get over 1000 fpm with wife and me and about 40
lbs of baggage and almost full fuel. Once over 90 knots rpm increases and I can
start bringing the throttle back to around 5000 rpm and 27 MAP for a cruise
climb of close to 1000 fpm and a little more than 100 knots.
It just gets better as speed increases thanks to that laminar wing.
This is truly a crazy little plane. Impressive.
Chris
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