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1. 07:39 AM - Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design (n7188u)
2. 08:01 AM - Fuel tank outlet boss couplings (n7188u)
3. 09:00 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 7/16 - 7/22 (Area-51)
4. 09:50 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 7/16 - 7/22 (h&jeuropa)
5. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 7/16 - 7/22 (Fred Klein)
6. 12:08 PM - Re: Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design (William Daniell)
7. 12:19 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 7/16 - 7/22 (n7188u)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design |
Interesting work Will and sorry you have to through this. I dread the day it happens
to me and I have to go through this too.
But your research will certainly help. I would really like to use composites, if
possible, since it would allow any of us to be able to construct a tank to our
liking. But I understand the concern. It's a scary thought that the surface
could be affected.
After quite a bit of reading I honestly can't conclude whether it would be 100%
safe to have a composite tank exposed to ethanol. The MAX GRE option looks promising
as I read that a Novolac based epoxy is a good choice.
But underground tanks are made from polyester resin and fiberglass but couldn't
find any specific resin spec.
Tough choice. Let us know how it goes.
Best,
Chris
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| Subject: | Fuel tank outlet boss couplings |
To continue with the tank woes discussion, I love my Europa but I am not a fan
of the fuel tank (should I just say "hate"). - end-of-rant -
Yesterday I took off and got greeted by strong gasoline smell in the cockpit during
initial climb. I immediately flew the pattern and landed to find that the
vent hose coupler let go and it was dumping gas into the right fwd baggage area.
Not a lot of it since my tank had only 12 gallons but boy did it smell.
The hose coupling was wet with fuel and impossible to put back because it was very
slippery. I had to put the airplane away and wait until the coupling dried
to put it back in. Flew this morning and no problem.
I am really afraid that this could happen one day to one of the bottom pickup couplings
since I used the same hose (good quality, US made, NBR liner and approved
for E85). Although it doesn't look like the ethanol fuel affects the hose
itself, if any fuel gets between the hose and boss surface it becomes very slippery
and pulls out. I had this vent coupling failure before but never to the
bottom pickups (thank you).
So any tricks out there to keep these darn couplings for slipping out.
As I write this I wonder: the bottom ones never failed but the vent one twice.
Maybe my vent hose is pulling on it when flying and eventually a small leak forms,
gets slippery and pulls out. I will check for that. I will also make it a
habit of checking the bottom ones more often.
Thoughts?
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 7/16 - 7/22 |
Pushing on into uncharted territory and an ergonomic stick grip with elevator trim
control.
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 7/16 - 7/22 |
Three flights this week in preparation for Oshkosh. All is well. We plan to launch
for Oshkosh Sunday, time depends on weather! See you all there.
Jim & Heather
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 7/16 - |
7/22
Erich & Fred enroute
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> On Jul 22, 2022, at 10:52 AM, h&jeuropa <butcher43@att.net> wrote:
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> Three flights this week in preparation for Oshkosh. All is well. We plan to
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design |
Underground tanks are made from isophthalic resin which a type of
vinylester according to my research.
Will
William Daniell
+1 786 878 0246
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 10:42 n7188u <chmgarb@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Interesting work Will and sorry you have to through this. I dread the day
> it happens to me and I have to go through this too.
>
> But your research will certainly help. I would really like to use
> composites, if possible, since it would allow any of us to be able to
> construct a tank to our liking. But I understand the concern. It's a scary
> thought that the surface could be affected.
>
> After quite a bit of reading I honestly can't conclude whether it would be
> 100% safe to have a composite tank exposed to ethanol. The MAX GRE option
> looks promising as I read that a Novolac based epoxy is a good choice.
>
> But underground tanks are made from polyester resin and fiberglass but
> couldn't find any specific resin spec.
>
> Tough choice. Let us know how it goes.
>
> Best,
> Chris
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=507518#507518
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week 7/16 - 7/22 |
Chris sitting at home working and not enroute :(
Send pictures!!!
Chris
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