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1. 05:56 AM - What did you do with your Europa this week 9/16 - 9/23 (h&jeuropa)
2. 07:03 AM - Re: fiberglass tank update (William Daniell)
3. 07:52 AM - Re: fiberglass tank update (n7188u)
4. 09:45 AM - Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design (ppsel03)
5. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design (William Daniell)
6. 04:41 PM - Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design (ppsel03)
7. 06:02 PM - Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design (ppsel03)
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| Subject: | What did you do with your Europa this week 9/16 - 9/23 |
Starting thread for this week.
We are off to Havana, IL this afternoon.
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: fiberglass tank update |
Brian thanks
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+1 786 878 0246
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 6:20 PM Brian Phillips <barp99@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just weighed my bare tank, 6.390 Kg or 14.07 pounds.
>
> Don't feel bad, I am still waiting on a Europa order I placed over a year
> ago, nothing fast happens there.
>
> Cheers,
> Brian Phillips
> Oz.
>
> On 16/09/2022 7:51 am, Pete Zut wrote:
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> I will measure my tank's weight this monday.... if you haven't received
> the number by then.
>
> cheers,
> PeteZ
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 5:48 PM William Daniell <
> wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Light at the end of the tunnel.
>>
>> This is not for the faint of heart. That said it was made
>> considerably worse by doing it in Florida summer, on a full day's work I
>> lost about 5 lbs.
>>
>> 1. I originally planned to make front and back and then the
>> base/sides and glue it all together. This is impossible.
>> 2. I then did what I should have done in the first place and made a
>> plug of XPS. Sounds easy when said like that but oh boy. Getting the plug
>> out was a nightmare despite (supposed) release tape. lesson learned: make
>> the plug hollow. Front and back and then build the sides so that you can
>> break out the plug without effort.
>> 3. I used EZ Poxy and Rutan cloth.
>> 4. I glassed the inside with three layers. It is quite heavy, I
>> am guessing maybe 50% more than the original, (can anyone send me the
>> weight of a plastic tank ?) but very solid. However I guess it will crack
>> in the case of a crash.
>> 5. This tank holds 15 gals. 5 gals up to the top of the "hump", 5
>> gals up to the bottom of the shelf and 5 gals in the shelf. I could have
>> made it a bit bigger but it fist in the door sills.
>> 6. I have decided to go with the original outlet fittings so that I
>> can inspect the finger strainers as part of the annual. I have heard of
>> fiberglass tanks shedding. The fiberglass outlets for the fittings will
be
>> floxed/glassed in place. I will use the original 1" hose arrangement to
>> hold the aluminium outlets in place.
>> 7. Filler is next.
>> 8. I am putting an inspection hatch in the top.
>>
>> I asked Europa for a quote the day after I discovered the leak. I am
>> still waiting for the quote, let alone the delivery time.
>>
>> Thanks to Chuck Reinas in CA.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> William Daniell
>> LONGPORT
>> +1 786 878 0246
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fiberglass tank update |
Wow, that is quite the job Will. The good news is that at the end you will have
a tank that will last you a lifetime. Hopefully!
Talking about composite tanks, and just out of coincidence, I asked GAMI about
the compatibility of their new G100UL fuel with composite tanks. They replied
that they have tested their fuel in the Cirrus and no problem. But who knows if
their fuel has similar nasties as auto go-go pee.
For sure it ain't going to have Vodka in it.
Looking forward to hearing about your experience with this. Did you make drawings
of the plug to share?
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design |
If available can you send the inspection plate instructions? N914XS sprung a
leak.
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EuropaXS 914UL Turbo
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design |
I am making it up as I go along!
But essentially I bought some sealed 10-32 nut plates, I made a ring of 1/8
aluminium which will hold the nutplates. I plan to glue and rivett the
ring/nut plate assembly to the inside. I have a sheet of nitrile for the
gasket and the cover will also be 1/8 aluminium.
William Daniell
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:46 PM ppsel03 <ppsel03@gmail.com> wrote:
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> If available can you send the inspection plate instructions? N914XS
> sprung a leak.
>
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> EuropaXS 914UL Turbo
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design |
Would really appreciate pictures of a tank access / inspection port showing the
rim, seal assembly and a list of what worked. NAS1474A3 Self Sealing #10-32
are a good start!.
Previously removed and welded closed the hole of a leaking fuel level detector
which had failed fiberglass bits. Still hoping to plastic weld the tank should
I identify the crack. But, want to understand sealing up the inspection port
before I start cutting it! Thanks.
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EuropaXS 914UL Turbo
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank inspection plate design |
Was thinking an inspection port made of 3 rings might eliminate any glue etc.
Sandwich the tank with the lower 2 rings permanently. Then use the 3rd top ring
/ cover as a removable inspection port. Any information out there on nut
plate spacing to get a good 100% fuel seal? 1 inch spacing maybe?
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