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1. 07:14 AM - installation of Stall Strips (tonyvaccarella)
2. 07:47 AM - Re: installation of Stall Strips (Dpc)
3. 07:52 AM - Re: installation of Stall Strips (Steve Ivell)
4. 11:44 AM - Re: installation of Stall Strips (Alan Burrill)
5. 03:57 PM - Re: installation of Stall Strips (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | installation of Stall Strips |
Hi All,
Iv almost completed by Europa XS, with a classic wing. I was reading an Operations
Manual that said most Europa's are fit with a Stall Strip. Mine does not but
it has the Europa stall warning.
Do I need a stall strip? - if so, I can't seem to find information about them in
the build manuals. So I thought I'd reach out to the hive mind of this forum
to set me straight.
Thanks for your help.
Tony
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Tony Vaccarella
Mascot NSW 2020
Sydney Australia
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| Subject: | Re: installation of Stall Strips |
Im in the same situation where I have a Classic wing with stall warner but no stall
strips. Andy Draper did my most recent annual permit inspection and suggested
it was a good idea to fit the stall strips in addition to the stall warner,
especially to correct any tendency for a wing to drop (which mine does if you
really push it hard in full flap stall situation). There is info on making
and fitting the stall strips in the POH itself and a template for fitting them
is in there too.
Andy suggested using plastic angle sections, about 10mm x 10mm, rather than carving
the wood ones mentioned in the POH, and fixing them on with bath silicone
once you have them in the correct position.
Good luck!
David
> On 10 Oct 2022, at 15:20, tonyvaccarella <tony@weimagine.com.au> wrote:
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> Hi All,
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> Iv almost completed by Europa XS, with a classic wing. I was reading an Operations
Manual that said most Europa's are fit with a Stall Strip. Mine does not
but it has the Europa stall warning.
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> Do I need a stall strip? - if so, I can't seem to find information about them
in the build manuals. So I thought I'd reach out to the hive mind of this forum
to set me straight.
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> Thanks for your help.
>
> Tony
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> Tony Vaccarella
> Mascot NSW 2020
> Sydney Australia
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| Subject: | installation of Stall Strips |
Hi Tony
You may need a stall strip but it's dependant on the test flight. Our doesn't have
one.
As a result of the test flight the test pilot may tape on a pencil or similar to
act as a stall strip, which can then be replaced with a proper stall strip once
you are happy with the stall characteristics. It's all a bit of trial and
error..........a bit like building a Europa!! Lol
Kind Regards
Steve Ivell
G-STES
E-mail: steveivell@pestproof.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
On Behalf Of tonyvaccarella
Sent: 10 October 2022 15:14
Subject: Europa-List: installation of Stall Strips
--> <tony@weimagine.com.au>
Hi All,
Iv almost completed by Europa XS, with a classic wing. I was reading an Operations
Manual that said most Europa's are fit with a Stall Strip. Mine does not but
it has the Europa stall warning.
Do I need a stall strip? - if so, I can't seem to find information about them in
the build manuals. So I thought I'd reach out to the hive mind of this forum
to set me straight.
Thanks for your help.
Tony
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Tony Vaccarella
Mascot NSW 2020
Sydney Australia
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=508046#508046
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| Subject: | Re: installation of Stall Strips |
Fitting the stall strips is documented in the POH.
In the UK I believe that you need a functional means of indicating approach of
the stall which the stall strips do if correctly placed and without the need of
any power supply.
If your powered stall warning fails due to loss of power supply the aircraft then
is grounded until resolved is my understanding in the UK.
Alan
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> On 10 Oct 2022, at 15:19, tonyvaccarella <tony@weimagine.com.au> wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
> Iv almost completed by Europa XS, with a classic wing. I was reading an Operations
Manual that said most Europa's are fit with a Stall Strip. Mine does not
but it has the Europa stall warning.
>
> Do I need a stall strip? - if so, I can't seem to find information about them
in the build manuals. So I thought I'd reach out to the hive mind of this forum
to set me straight.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Tony
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> Tony Vaccarella
> Mascot NSW 2020
> Sydney Australia
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| Subject: | installation of Stall Strips |
Hi Tony,
I've attached a paper I did on my Classic N12AY but never published it "St
all Warning types for the Europa". Because the wings on a Classic can be a
bit out of shape, some aircraft have a bit of a wing drop. Some don't. E
ven the XS wings may exhibit a wing drop due to rig and or incidence differ
ences. Initially I only toyed with leading edge stall strips once I flew N
12AY as it flew very well and stalls were OK but wing drop was not uncommon
. The stall strips made the aircraft stall warning more pronounced but it
took me a few flights to get them tuned. I found my stall break became mor
e predictable. See the addendum added on my stall strip work paper at the
bottom of "Stall Warning types for the Europa".
I have installed a stall warning system similar to the Mod 61 (same basic c
omponents but different install yet similar) and it works perfectly which c
ost me about $50 USD. I added a silence button for slow flight noise reduc
tion/distraction and now I am modifying it (as I always do) to now include
an intercom voice warning from the Airbus and a self test for a lot of rese
arch time and about $50 more of cheap Chinese components. I find that I ca
n't hear the horn with my headset on in flight. I can't help but to tinker
. I've attached another pdf of what I've done so far for my Classic (Stall
Warning System Upgrade 2022) on that. Great fun, fairly cheap, but tediou
s time-consuming work.
Finally, I'll attach some drawings of how I moved and modified my stall str
ips in a picture format as well as my Classic plumbing of it.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr
onics.com> On Behalf Of tonyvaccarella
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 10:14 AM
Subject: Europa-List: installation of Stall Strips
Hi All,
Iv almost completed by Europa XS, with a classic wing. I was reading an Ope
rations Manual that said most Europa's are fit with a Stall Strip. Mine doe
s not but it has the Europa stall warning.
Do I need a stall strip? - if so, I can't seem to find information about th
em in the build manuals. So I thought I'd reach out to the hive mind of thi
s forum to set me straight.
Thanks for your help.
Tony
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Tony Vaccarella
Mascot NSW 2020
Sydney Australia
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