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1. 01:06 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (Dpc)
2. 08:29 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (Rowland Carson)
3. 09:31 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (Dpc)
4. 09:38 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (Alan Burrill)
5. 11:13 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (D McFadyean)
6. 06:39 PM - What did you do with your Europa this week - 08/11/22 (Area-51)
7. 10:42 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 08/11/22 (Brian Phillips)
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz |
Thanks, Rowland.
Unfortunately my Mac is an older one that doesnt have the M1/2 chip and I dont
have a PC, but youre right that this would work for file transfer.
When you use your GPSmap 296 to fly a route with the Trutrak, can you easily override
or cancel that route and choose a different track, but yet continue to
use the 296 to provide GPS location/track info to the Trutrak? Reprogramming the
296 in flight with a temporary new track, would seem fiddly compared to just
punching in a new track number to the Trutrak box?
David
> On 7 Nov 2022, at 23:20, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 2022-11-07, at 22:29, Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com> wrote:
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>> I dont think there is yet an easy way to take a route from SD on an iPad and
then load it into a Garmin handheld device.
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> David - I agree with your conclusion, that there is no way to get GPS routes
from an iPad to a Garmin handheld.
>
> There may be another possibility for you. My setup (not yet tested in flight!)
is also a TruTrak wing leveller, driven from a Garmin GPSmap 296. I run the
SkyDemon app on my Mac Mini with an M1 chip, which allows me to install and run
(some) iPad apps. I can plan a route on the Mac and export a GPS file (.GPX)
from SkyDemon, and then transfer it to the 296 using the LoadMyTracks app and
a USB-serial adaptor. If youre not a Mac person, I understand that there is a
SkyDemon app for Windows but know nothing about it.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz |
On 2022-11-08, at 09:06, Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately my Mac is an older one that doesnt have the M1/2 chip and I dont
have a PC, but youre right that this would work for file transfer.
>
> When you use your GPSmap 296 to fly a route with the Trutrak, can you easily
override or cancel that route and choose a different track, but yet continue to
use the 296 to provide GPS location/track info to the Trutrak? Reprogramming
the 296 in flight with a temporary new track, would seem fiddly compared to just
punching in a new track number to the Trutrak box?
David - as I said, my aircraft is not yet flying so I cant answer that properly,
but I think your assumption is probably right. I have flown pre-programmed tracks
with the Garmin GPSmap296 in C150s etc (but obviously not coupled to an
autopilot!). I try not to fiddle with tracks on the GPS in the air but revert
to the chart if I have to divert from the plan.
Ive had another thought - I think you should be able to save a SkyDemon GPX file
to iCloud on the iPad (Files app) and then pull it off iCloud onto your Mac
for transfer. Still need the USB-serial cable and LoadMyTracks.
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz |
Thanks, Rowland. Ill investigate that route to save and download a gpx file.
> On 8 Nov 2022, at 16:32, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 2022-11-08, at 09:06, Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately my Mac is an older one that doesnt have the M1/2 chip and I dont
have a PC, but youre right that this would work for file transfer.
>>
>> When you use your GPSmap 296 to fly a route with the Trutrak, can you easily
override or cancel that route and choose a different track, but yet continue
to use the 296 to provide GPS location/track info to the Trutrak? Reprogramming
the 296 in flight with a temporary new track, would seem fiddly compared to
just punching in a new track number to the Trutrak box?
>
>
> David - as I said, my aircraft is not yet flying so I cant answer that properly,
but I think your assumption is probably right. I have flown pre-programmed
tracks with the Garmin GPSmap296 in C150s etc (but obviously not coupled to an
autopilot!). I try not to fiddle with tracks on the GPS in the air but revert
to the chart if I have to divert from the plan.
>
> Ive had another thought - I think you should be able to save a SkyDemon GPX file
to iCloud on the iPad (Files app) and then pull it off iCloud onto your Mac
for transfer. Still need the USB-serial cable and LoadMyTracks.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz |
I think I can help on this one and having flown with mine connected to
the Garmin 796 then I do the following.
I plan on a Tablet, RunwayHD, and get my Wx, NOTAM etc sorted. I don
=99t transfer anything direct o the 796. I could use the Garmin Pilot
app but, I don=99t have an active subscription, then you can do
it through bluetooth but the 196 and 295 models don=99t have that.
I manually enter the plan into the 796, fairly easy to do as its touch
screen etc and i have the CAA chart option on mine so its displays
wither the Jepp Chart or the CAA Chart for the UK.
to Engage the Trutrack, apply power and display lights up with words OFF
on the display. There are three controls on/off and the a left =86=B6
and right=86=B7 arrows.
Push the On/Off button and the trutrackk engages and tracks the current
with the display changing to the magnetic track, say 270. The display
willl then alternate flashing the track digits and then -F- meaning is
has a track from the GPS. To engage push the two arrows simultaneous and
the trutrack will then turn the aircraft to engage the gps track and
maintain.
If you want to disengage the GPS track, push one of the arrows and it
will then display the current magnetic track and maintain that. To alter
that by using the left or right arrows to step to turn left or right
onto new track, say 260, to avoid something, and then if you want to
re-engage and the -F- symbol is alternating the the display push two
arrows simultaneously and the trutrac will then turn the aircraft to
re-engage the GPS track. It plans to join a track at about 30deg.
If you want to disengage the trutrack altogether then push the on/off
button or, if you have wired it, the alternate button you can connect
though the rear connector wiring - most people have this on the control
column for rapid disengage. then you are bak to manually flying with no
input drive from the APP servos.
That=99s best description I can do on email but if Wx and runway
conditions allow this then could easily demonstrate in a flight.
Alan
> On 8 Nov 2022, at 16:28, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
wrote:
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<rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
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> On 2022-11-08, at 09:06, Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately my Mac is an older one that doesn=99t have the
M1/2 chip and I don=99t have a PC, but you=99re right that
this would work for file transfer.
>>
>> When you use your GPSmap 296 to fly a route with the Trutrak, can you
easily =98override=99 or cancel that route and choose a
different track, but yet continue to use the 296 to provide GPS
location/track info to the Trutrak? Reprogramming the 296 in flight with
a temporary new track, would seem fiddly compared to just punching in a
new track number to the Trutrak box?
>
>
> David - as I said, my aircraft is not yet flying so I can=99t
answer that properly, but I think your assumption is probably right. I
have flown pre-programmed tracks with the Garmin GPSmap296 in C150s etc
(but obviously not coupled to an autopilot!). I try not to fiddle with
tracks on the GPS in the air but revert to the chart if I have to divert
from the plan.
>
> I=99ve had another thought - I think you should be able to save
a SkyDemon GPX file to iCloud on the iPad (Files app) and then pull it
off iCloud onto your Mac for transfer. Still need the USB-serial cable
and LoadMyTracks.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
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>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz |
The TruTrak will fly a track slaved from a 296. But it won't fly routes very well,
because the turns will be overshot. Eventually it will get back on to the
track of the selected route, by which time airspace may have been bust!
The older Skymap referred to in the OP should also work with the TruTrak and has
pre-emptive steering (i.e. it has an algorithm that anticipates the turn to
better maintain a route, on the later Bendix Kings this was adjustable in the
settings) so should be better suited to following a route.
I found that other non-aviation Garmin GPSs (e.g. eTrex) also worked for basic
guidance, so long as it had the NMEA output.
Duncan McF.
> On 08 November 2022 at 16:28 Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 2022-11-08, at 09:06, Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com> wrote:
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> > Unfortunately my Mac is an older one that doesnt have the M1/2 chip and I dont
have a PC, but youre right that this would work for file transfer.
> >
> > When you use your GPSmap 296 to fly a route with the Trutrak, can you easily
override or cancel that route and choose a different track, but yet continue
to use the 296 to provide GPS location/track info to the Trutrak? Reprogramming
the 296 in flight with a temporary new track, would seem fiddly compared to
just punching in a new track number to the Trutrak box?
>
>
> David - as I said, my aircraft is not yet flying so I cant answer that properly,
but I think your assumption is probably right. I have flown pre-programmed
tracks with the Garmin GPSmap296 in C150s etc (but obviously not coupled to an
autopilot!). I try not to fiddle with tracks on the GPS in the air but revert
to the chart if I have to divert from the plan.
>
> Ive had another thought - I think you should be able to save a SkyDemon GPX file
to iCloud on the iPad (Files app) and then pull it off iCloud onto your Mac
for transfer. Still need the USB-serial cable and LoadMyTracks.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | What did you do with your Europa this week - 08/11/22 |
Very exciting and intense sessions at the design table all week... finished off
modelling the instrument panel and interior cabin environment; adding takeoffs
for fixings and control lever slots... the sticks and pedals are in along with
the spaceframe... next up are the doors... the Rotax 912, 914, and 915 are
all sitting there waiting to be popped in when the time comes... will move onto
the rear section shortly to add the control surface mechanicals... its hours
and hours of arduous and rewarding work.... learning a lot about the aircraft
through the process.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=508544#508544
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 08/11/22 |
Hi Area 51,
I see you mention a 915, I'm wondering if you have any data on a 915 in
a Europa, I would love to hear about it, as I am at engine decision
point and have assumed it would be too heavy up front to stay within W&B
and safe operating loads.
Cheers,
Brian Phillips.
On 9/11/2022 1:38 pm, Area-51 wrote:
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> Very exciting and intense sessions at the design table all week... finished off
modelling the instrument panel and interior cabin environment; adding takeoffs
for fixings and control lever slots... the sticks and pedals are in along
with the spaceframe... next up are the doors... the Rotax 912, 914, and 915 are
all sitting there waiting to be popped in when the time comes... will move onto
the rear section shortly to add the control surface mechanicals... its hours
and hours of arduous and rewarding work.... learning a lot about the aircraft
through the process.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=508544#508544
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