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Sun 11/20/22


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 01:27 AM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 18/11/22 (Area-51)
     2. 08:22 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (Dpc)
     3. 08:59 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (Rowland Carson)
     4. 09:21 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (Dpc)
     5. 09:42 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (Rowland Carson)
     6. 10:08 AM - Cockpit ventilation (arwel pritchard)
     7. 10:12 AM - Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz (David Cripps)
     8. 10:27 AM - Re: Cockpit ventilation (David Cripps)
     9. 02:52 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 18/11/22 (dmac7)
    10. 08:53 PM - Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 18/11/22 (Area-51)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:27:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 18/11/22
    From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
    The mods keep materialising... Sunday afternoon was spent designing a new firewall solution for 181. After the crap ordeal changing out fuel hoses recently and the lack of easy access a better option was created today. Each piece is held in place by just two fixings each and tongue and groove interlocking. The lower section is removable by undoing two setscrews mounted on the inside upright face of the footwell and then sliding it downward. The upper section is fixed by two set screws on the same inside footwell wall and remains in situ and does not require removal until the frame is removed. There is provided a large inspection hatch that is fixed by tongue and groove and two set screws on the top lip of the upper section; removal is from the top once the airbox is out of the way. Looking forward to fitting this mod when ever the engine is next being removed for any reason. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=508952#508952 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ef2efd72_d734_4307_8a71_dc200ab8cd65_133.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/08cbd6c6_4f8a_4aef_b7c1_3ff73a448b1b_849.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/0349a675_daa7_4adb_ab1b_6134e309872f_162.jpeg


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    Time: 08:22:45 AM PST US
    From: Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com>
    Subject: Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz
    Alan Thank you very much for this update. Very helpful indeed. I have been offered a Garmin Aera 500 which would be a much neater and smaller GPS input source than my Skymap IIIC. Would you happen to know if the Aera would have the necessary output for the Trutrak? Hope your strip has not become too waterlogged in all this rain. Would love to fly up and see your AP in action. Sandown is currently closed as the grass is so boggy but us residents can operate off the astro. Quite challenging to remain within its 430m with just 80hp up front! Best regards David > On 19 Nov 2022, at 16:26, Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk> wrote: > > > Ok Ive had a. Ha ce to fly mine with the GPS feed off. > > As Duncan says below the display drops to show -||- but maintains the track last set or you are holding when you switch it on. > > The are no heading digits on the display so you will need use your compass/DI to show that. > > If you press the left or right buttons then you can alter the track the AP is following either left or right and a number appears which if you press the button you can increase or decrease after the AP locks on the numbers disappear and you have the -||- on the display. > > Useful if you have a GPS failure but wouldnt want that as normal mode of operation so my suggestion is you need a GPS feed with the right NEMA message set to get the most out of the AP and the ability for it to follow a track you have programmed in is a bonus. > > One word of caution, I have come across some GPS that dont put out any messages, even the position message for driving a Transponder ADS-B output, unless there is a track in the GPS. That was how some of the older version worked, GARMIN 430 and possible the early AVMAP were guilty of that. > > Hope that helps. > > Alan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 10 Nov 2022, at 10:52, D McFadyean <ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net> wrote: >> >> >> Digitrak only needs basic positional information from the GPS on a regular basis. It will use this information to fly the track that has been set on the Digitrak. >> If a route is programmed in to the GPS, it will fly that too (with different commands being set at the Digitrak control head to enable this), so long as the GPS is also putting out the crosstrack error signal; not all of them do. >> >> Duncan McF. >> > > > > >


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    Time: 08:59:28 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz
    On 2022-11-20, at 16:22, Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com> wrote: > Thank you very much for this update. Very helpful indeed. > > I have been offered a Garmin Aera 500 which would be a much neater and smaller GPS input source than my Skymap IIIC. Would you happen to know if the Aera would have the necessary output for the Trutrak? David - it=99s my understanding that the Aera 500 would drive the TruTrak OK. Way back in 2009-11-05 I logged in my build journal: =9CNote that the just-announced Garmin aera 500 touchscreen GPS appears to offer more screen area in a smaller box than the 296, and to have superseded it (the 296 has disappeared from the Garmin website), and Transair already have it listed at a lower price than the 296 - ho hum.=9D So it looks as though I had at that time checked the capability of the Aera 500 to drive my TruTrak wing leveller and found it to be compatible. I was just disappointed that it was =9Cnicer=9D, smaller and cheaper than the GPSmap 296 to which I had already committed! in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 09:21:12 AM PST US
    From: Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com>
    Subject: Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz
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    Time: 09:42:23 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz
    On 2022-11-20, at 17:20, Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com> wrote: > Is your 296 still working well with the Trutrak? David - I think I may have mentioned in a previous posting on this topic that I am not yet actually flying in my Europa! However, I have done some simple testing on the ground and it appears to be functioning as desired. My website <http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk> is down now for some reason (I have raised a support ticket!) but when it comes back you should be able to find the relevant part of the journal on the entry for 22 Feb 2021. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 10:08:54 AM PST US
    From: arwel pritchard <arwel.pritchard@powercom.ltd.uk>
    Subject: Cockpit ventilation
    Good evening all, I was thinking about cockpit ventilation the other day and thought that I can let plenty of fresh air into the cabin from the two side vents, but for proper ventilation, all that air needs to leave the cabin as well. Then, I thought about putting some kind of ventilation grille in the rear access panel. This should allow some air to flow through the grille, then on through the fuselage and exit at the rear. Not sure if this would give adequate venting, or work at all, any thoughts please? Thanks Arwel


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    Time: 10:12:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trutrak AP with Garmin GPS 18x 5Hz
    From: David Cripps <dpc@knightonweb.com>
    Ah, yes Roland. You did mention this but good to see that you have it working in 'ground mode'. Look forward to seeing more on your website once it is back up and running. On 20/11/2022, 17:45, "Rowland Carson" <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote: On 2022-11-20, at 17:20, Dpc <dpc@knightonweb.com> wrote: > Is your 296 still working well with the Trutrak? David - I think I may have mentioned in a previous posting on this topic that I am not yet actually flying in my Europa! However, I have done some simple testing on the ground and it appears to be functioning as desired. My website <http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk> is down now for some reason (I have raised a support ticket!) but when it comes back you should be able to find the relevant part of the journal on the entry for 22 Feb 2021. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 10:27:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cockpit ventilation
    From: David Cripps <dpc@knightonweb.com>
    Arwel I have a small sliding hatch in the D-panel in the baggage bay bulkhead that does exactly what you're suggesting. When this hatch is open, there is significantly more draught flowing through the cockpit from the side vents. However, even with it closed there seems to be enough leakage points in the cockpit (gaps in door seals, throttle and finger brake lever slots, access hatch in tunnel between seats to fuel selector valve etc) for there still to be plenty of ways for air to flow out, at least for the flow you'd want at this time of year. I find the bigger issue is that the side vents do not direct the incoming air where you really want it, and mainly freeze your knees! There has been mention by others of some very nicely designed rotating/flap type vents which do direct air well, but probably need to be installed instead of the standard side vents at time of building (or at least it looks like it would be quite a rework job to fit them as replacements for the current side vents). This winter I am going to experiment with installing some kind of simple moulded ducting on the inside of the fuselage (maybe even just velcroed onto the carpet lining for ultimate modifiability) placed over the existing vents. This would try to 'scoop up' the air from the vents and angle it upwards/inwards. Not sure if anyone else has tried this but would be interested to hear if they have. David On 20/11/2022, 18:11, "arwel pritchard" <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of arwel.pritchard@powercom.ltd.uk> wrote: Good evening all, I was thinking about cockpit ventilation the other day and thought that I can let plenty of fresh air into the cabin from the two side vents, but for proper ventilation, all that air needs to leave the cabin as well. Then, I thought about putting some kind of ventilation grille in the rear access panel. This should allow some air to flow through the grille, then on through the fuselage and exit at the rear. Not sure if this would give adequate venting, or work at all, any thoughts please? Thanks Arwel


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    Time: 02:52:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 18/11/22
    From: "dmac7" <dmac7@outlook.com>
    Interesting posts Mr Area-51 confirmation is nice. I wonder if changing the needle positions affect cruise mixture much or only mid range? And thats a sweet firewall... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=508965#508965


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    Time: 08:53:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: What did you do with your Europa this week - 18/11/22
    From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
    Thanks; still need to run it through relevant FAR's before production. Re' adjusting Bing needle position; not going to even bother... If it aint broken, why fix it? But if you want to experiment and know how to proficiently monitor the affects, give it a go! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=508967#508967




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