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1. 12:37 AM - Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial (Hitchflight)
2. 12:47 AM - Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial (BobD)
3. 12:49 AM - Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial (Hitchflight)
4. 04:03 AM - Re: Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial (Rowland Carson)
5. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial (MIKE CHRISTINE DUANE)
6. 12:11 PM - Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 (JonathanMilbank)
7. 02:11 PM - Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 (Dpc)
8. 02:59 PM - Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 (JonathanMilbank)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial |
Hi Rowland
The suggestion is to create a map with the approximate position of the Members
home. This is achieved by using a truncated version of the Members postal code.
This map to only be available to Members using the password privileges.
In the settings page both new and existing Members can define if they are happy
to release personal detail in the Membership settings options:
https://www.theeuropaclub.org/members/
Currently 23% of the Europa Club Membership have positively selected that they
do not want any personal information disclosed (including by default map information).
The Club will respect the Members wishes. So the map would show 77% of
locations if active today.
In respect of thefts from airfields the Europa Club is acutely aware of the sensitivity
of the subject. The Europa Club has no intention to publish at this time.
Poignant, my home airfield was targeted Christmas 2020. The theft of engines, including
mine, was traumatic! Installation of high tech, high cost security security
equipment and processes followed.
Regards
Bob
Rowland_Carson wrote:
> On 2023-02-16, at 08:41, Hitchflight wrote:
> > https://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/member-location-map-trial (https://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/member-location-map-trial)
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> Bob - I hope that many members will support this - it looks a good idea.
>
> Am I correct in thinking that the intention is to show home addresses, NOT aircraft
bases? With so many Rotax engines being stolen, I would not want to have
pointers published that thieves could use to locate potential targets. Yes,
I know the map will be members-only, but the black hats may well have the tools
to circumvent website security as well as the ones used to liberate engines!
>
> Ive recently been doing something similar with online maps using the Leaflet
templates, which I found really easy to use - see:
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> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/wed_walks/pubs_map.php (http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/wed_walks/pubs_map.php)
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> in friendship
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> Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial |
Rowland_Carson wrote:
> On 2023-02-16, at 08:41, Hitchflight wrote:
> > https://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/member-location-map-trial (https://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/member-location-map-trial)
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> Bob - I hope that many members will support this - it looks a good idea.
>
> Am I correct in thinking that the intention is to show home addresses, NOT aircraft
bases? With so many Rotax engines being stolen, I would not want to have
pointers published that thieves could use to locate potential targets. Yes,
I know the map will be members-only, but the black hats may well have the tools
to circumvent website security as well as the ones used to liberate engines!
>
> Ive recently been doing something similar with online maps using the Leaflet
templates, which I found really easy to use - see:
>
> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/wed_walks/pubs_map.php (http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/wed_walks/pubs_map.php)
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
>
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> | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...| http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk (http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk)| Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson
Hi Rowland,
The intention is to use the first part of an individuals post code for their location.
This will identify the general location, but not the specific address
of the individual. The individuals name and email address would be displayed,
but not their address or phone number. In this way, an individual can be
contacted, but it is then up to the individual to decide if they wish to engage.
Best Regards
Bob Dawson
Europa Club Treasurer
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Bob Dawson
Europa XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ || Dynon Skyview || PilotAware || SmartAss3
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial |
Hi Pete Z.
In May 2018 the privacy GDPR laws changed in the UK & EU. The laws are very different
in Canada and the USA. This side of the pond there is the threat of fines
or other sanctions for publishing a Members contact details without permission.
Consequently we are obliged to proceed cautiously and with consent. The Europa
Committee will likely review and decide at the next Committee meeting.
Thanks for the feedback
Regards
Bob
peterz(at)zutrasoft.com wrote:
> Sadly here in Canada, all that is needed by those blackhats is to log into our
government registry and do a quick search, by engine even LOL
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> PeteZ
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> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:17 AM Rowland Carson wrote:
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> > On 2023-02-16, at 08:41, Hitchflight wrote:
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> > > https://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/member-location-map-trial (https://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/member-location-map-trial)
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> > Bob - I hope that many members will support this - it looks a good idea.
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> > Am I correct in thinking that the intention is to show home addresses, NOT
aircraft bases? With so many Rotax engines being stolen, I would not want to have
pointers published that thieves could use to locate potential targets. Yes,
I know the map will be members-only, but the black hats may well have the tools
to circumvent website security as well as the ones used to liberate engines!
> >
> >
> > Ive recently been doing something similar with online maps using the Leaflet
templates, which I found really easy to use - see:
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> > http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/wed_walks/pubs_map.php (http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/wed_walks/pubs_map.php)
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> > in friendship
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> > Rowland
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> > | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...
> > | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk (http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk)
> > | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial |
On 2023-02-17, at 08:47, BobD <rjdawson14@gmail.com> wrote:
> The intention is to use the first part of an individuals post code for their
location. This will identify the general location, but not the specific address
of the individual. The individuals name and email address would be displayed,
but not their address or phone number. In this way, an individual can be
contacted, but it is then up to the individual to decide if they wish to engage.
Bob - that all sounds excellent, thanks for the clarification. Count me in for
a display flag.
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Club Membership location map trial |
I like this idea in that it allows members to be aware of where other members may
live in general. The email info would allow for contact in a general sense.
Remember, there is still the emergency contact list for those traveling that might
be in need of some faster assistance.
Mike Duane N377EA
EUROPA XS Conventional Gear
Chandler, AZ
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> On Feb 17, 2023, at 4:04 AM, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 2023-02-17, at 08:47, BobD <rjdawson14@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The intention is to use the first part of an individuals post code for their
location. This will identify the general location, but not the specific address
of the individual. The individuals name and email address would be displayed,
but not their address or phone number. In this way, an individual can
be contacted, but it is then up to the individual to decide if they wish to engage.
>
> Bob - that all sounds excellent, thanks for the clarification. Count me in for
a display flag.
>
> in friendship
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> Rowland
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| Subject: | Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 |
UK Classic and possibly XS owners who have recently been informed by their inspectors
to comply with Mandatory Permit Directive MPD : 1998-019 R1 subject Flexible
Fuel Tubing. I WANT TO SPLIT THE COST WITH YOU.
After measuring generously, the total length I need is 7 meters / 23 ft. Looking at the LAS website, I ascertain that 23 ft at 4.14/ft will cost 95.22 and probably delivery + VAT to be added. But its "provenance" is debatable, even though LAS Aerospace Ltd no doubt has impeccable credentials. https://www.lasaero.com/products/article/S03RCYQ1X
My inspector is keen for me to acquire TYGON, which fulfils the MPD requirement as "tubing manufactured from an identifiable material" and so he provided me with this link to Tubing International https://www.tubinginternational.com/cart/ which comes in at 167.24 incl shipping and VAT. That gets me a 50 ft / 15 meter roll, which is more than double what I need. Would anyone like to buy the leftover half roll from me for, shall we say, 70.00 incl shipping?
Looking forward to a stampede of replies. Jonathan
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 |
Jonathan
Id be interested in this as am in the process of changing all fuel lines, including
sight gauges.
Do you want to email me off forum to avoid clogging things up here?
dpc@knightonweb.com
Thanks
David
> On 17 Feb 2023, at 20:15, JonathanMilbank <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> UK Classic and possibly XS owners who have recently been informed by their inspectors
to comply with Mandatory Permit Directive MPD : 1998-019 R1 subject Flexible
Fuel Tubing. I WANT TO SPLIT THE COST WITH YOU.
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> After measuring generously, the total length I need is 7 meters / 23 ft. Looking at the LAS website, I ascertain that 23 ft at 4.14/ft will cost 95.22 and probably delivery + VAT to be added. But its "provenance" is debatable, even though LAS Aerospace Ltd no doubt has impeccable credentials. https://www.lasaero.com/products/article/S03RCYQ1X
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> My inspector is keen for me to acquire TYGON, which fulfils the MPD requirement as "tubing manufactured from an identifiable material" and so he provided me with this link to Tubing International https://www.tubinginternational.com/cart/ which comes in at 167.24 incl shipping and VAT. That gets me a 50 ft / 15 meter roll, which is more than double what I need. Would anyone like to buy the leftover half roll from me for, shall we say, 70.00 incl shipping?
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 |
David,
I've tried to send a reply to you vie Gmail and yahoo mail, but keep getting rejected
with messages like "No such address exists". Here's what I was trying to
send:
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